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    Ngaio (Myoporum Laetum)

    Can be used to repel sandflys and mosquito by rubbing the leaves on your skin.

    Can also be toxic to stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    I'm keen to increase my practical plant id skills. In broad terms, I want to work on a list of 5-10 of the most important plants in the following categories:

    Deer food:
    Seven Finger / Pate / Schefflera digitata
    Five Finger / Whauwhaupaku / Pseudopanax arboreus
    NZ Broadleaf / Kapuka / Griselinia littoralis
    Stinkwood/?/Coprosma foetidissima
    Nasty
    Gorse / ??? / Ulex europaeus
    Stinging nettle/ Onga Onga / Urtica Ferox
    ??? / Tutu / Coriaria arborea
    Cutty grass / Toetoe / Austroderia
    Hookgrass/?/Uncinia spp.
    Leatherwood/?/Oleria colensoi and others
    Bush lawyer/?/Rubus cissoides

    Usefull / Medicinal
    Dock / ??? / ???
    ??? / Kawa Kawa / ???
    Edible (human)
    Fern root / Aruhe / ???
    ??? / Hinau / Elaeocarpus dentatus
    ??? / Tawa / Beilschmiedia tawa
    ??? / Kiekie / Freycinetia banksii
    Black tree fern / Mamaku / Cyathea medullaris
    Supplejack/?/Ripognum scandens soft growing tips and the red berries
    bush lawyer/?/Rubus cissoides and R. parvus berries like blackberry but smaller. parvus has the biggest berries only seen it once in the Burke R near Haast Pass


    Pls help me flesh out the lists...

    I've added some in blue.
    Bush lawyer is the vine with little barbs, catches on your clothes. Stinging nettle has 10cm soft serrated leaves with delicate furry hypodermics underneath.
    I've found it quite hard to get a book which is useful for identfying an unknown plant in the bush. Most, like Salmon's Native Tees focus on trees. Ferns and vines are harder to reference. Look for Andrew Crowe's "Which native tree ?' and "Which native forest plant ?" Publ Penguin 1992 and 1994 and reprinted. and he did a hardcover book "A field guide to the native edible plants of New Zealand" pbl Collins 1981

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    Sorry slight off topic and this can be tidied up later, but has anyone seen that program (perhaps it was just the one episode?) about NZ 'native' birds and the whole Gwandana land / Zealandia / New Zealand movement of land etc..? It was really interesting but I wish they had a similar thing for plants!! It was about the evolution of birds and how for example the Kiwi actually started in Aussy.
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    Visit Welly library and get "Ghosts of Gondwana" by Greorge Gibbs.

    Has fauna and flora from a tectonic movement perspective. Includes the divericate plants and proof of moa browsing, as well as some interesting chapters on hebe group of plants and similarities between South America and NZ.

    The visitor centre at Zealandia has an awesome visual display from 200 M years ago to today about Gondwana breakup, how Antarctica functioned as a land bridge etc.
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    Tx to those providing info

    Deer food:

    Broadleaf / Kapuka / Griselinia littoralis
    Bushmans Friend / Rangiora / Brachyglottis repanda
    Crown Fern / Kiokio / Blechnum discolor - Whitetail
    Five Finger / Whauwhaupaku / Pseudopanax arboreus
    Seven Finger / Pate / Schefflera digitata
    Stinkwood / Hūpiro / Coprosma foetidissima
    Pepper Wood / ??? / ???

    Whiteywood / Mahoe / Melicytus ramiflorus
    Wild Irishman / Matagouri / Discaria toumatou - Fallow

    Nasty

    ??? / Karaka / Corynocarpus laevigatus - has a poisonous seed in its fleshy orange fruit
    ??? / Tītoki / Alectryon excelsus – contains cyanide-producing poisons

    Bushmans Lawyer / Tātarāmoa / Rubus cissoides
    Cutty grass / Toetoe / Austroderia
    Blueberry lilly, Inkberry / Turutu / Dianella Nigra - (purple) berries poisonous
    Gorse / ??? / Ulex europaeus
    Hookgrass/ ??? / Uncinia spp.
    Kangaroo Apple / Poroporo / Solanum aviculare, S. laciniatum – their unripe green berries are poisonous
    Kowhai / Kowhai / Sophora species – its yellow seeds are poisonous if chewed.
    Leatherwood / ? / Oleria colensoi

    Mousehole Tree / Ngiao / Myoporum Laetum - has poisonous leaves
    Spear Grass / ??? / ???
    Stinging Nettle
    / Onga Onga / Urtica Ferox
    Tutu / Tutu / Coriaria arborea - just about every part of the tree (roots, bark, berries) is poisonous


    Usefull / Medicinal

    ??? / Koromiko / Hebe stricta - eating young leaves is a remedy for constipation
    ??? / Kowhai / Sophora spp.
    Dock / ??? / ??? - treatment for Onga Onga sting
    Flax / Harakeke / Phormium colensoi & tenax - pulp of leaves & roots, heated, use for infections and boils
    Manuka / Manuka / Leptospermum scoparium - leaves made into tea for fever, ash for dandruff
    Mousehole Tree / Ngiao / Myoporum Laetum - repel sandflys and mosquito by rubbing the leaves on your skin
    Pepper Tree / Kawa Kawa / Macropiper excelsum - toothache, upset tummy
    Pepperwood / Horopito / Pseudowintera colorata - leaves & tender branches steeped, use for chafing, wounds, bruises, cuts
    Rata / Rata / ???

    Edible (human)

    ??? / Hinau / Elaeocarpus dentatus
    ??? / Karaka / Corynocarpus laevigatus - flesh of berries, seed is poisonous
    ??? / Kiekie / Freycinetia banksii
    ??? / Tawa / Beilschmiedia tawa
    Black tree fern / Mamaku / Cyathea medullaris
    Cabbage tree / Ti Kouka / Cordyline australis - center of the head of the tree ,the base or pith(the white bit) of the spear like center can be eaten raw
    Fern root / Aruhe / Pteridium esculentum - carbohydrate, root cooked, then beaten to remove hard outer skin
    Sow Thistle / Puha / ???
    Suplejack / Kareao / Ripogonum scandens - soft tips are edible
    Watercress / Kowhitiwhiti / ???

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    Deer food:

    Broadleaf / Kapuka / Griselinia littoralis
    Bushmans Friend / Rangiora / Brachyglottis repanda
    Crown Fern / Kiokio / Blechnum discolor - Whitetail
    Five Finger / Whauwhaupaku / Pseudopanax arboreus
    Seven Finger / Pate / Schefflera digitata
    Stinkwood / Hūpiro / Coprosma foetidissima
    Pepper Wood / ??? / ???
    Whiteywood / Mahoe / Melicytus ramiflorus
    Wild Irishman / Matagouri / Discaria toumatou - Fallow


    Nasty

    ??? / Karaka / Corynocarpus laevigatus - has a poisonous seed in its fleshy orange fruit
    ??? / Tītoki / Alectryon excelsus – contains cyanide-producing poisons
    Bushmans Lawyer / Tātarāmoa / Rubus cissoides
    Cutty grass / Toetoe / Austroderia
    Blueberry lilly, Inkberry / Turutu / Dianella Nigra - (purple) berries poisonous
    Gorse / ??? / Ulex europaeus
    Hookgrass/ ??? / Uncinia spp.
    Kangaroo Apple / Poroporo / Solanum aviculare, S. laciniatum – their unripe green berries are poisonous
    Kowhai / Kowhai / Sophora species – its yellow seeds are poisonous if chewed.
    Leatherwood / ? / Oleria colensoi
    Mousehole Tree / Ngiao / Myoporum Laetum - has poisonous leaves
    Spear Grass / ??? / ???
    Stinging Nettle / Onga Onga / Urtica Ferox
    Tutu / Tutu / Coriaria arborea - just about every part of the tree (roots, bark, berries) is poisonous



    Usefull / Medicinal

    ??? / Koromiko / Hebe stricta - eating young leaves is a remedy for constipation
    ??? / Kowhai / Sophora spp.
    Dock / ??? / ??? - treatment for Onga Onga sting
    Flax / Harakeke / Phormium colensoi & tenax - pulp of leaves & roots, heated, use for infections and boils
    Manuka / Manuka / Leptospermum scoparium - leaves made into tea for fever, ash for dandruff
    Mousehole Tree / Ngiao / Myoporum Laetum - repel sandflys and mosquito by rubbing the leaves on your skin
    Pepper Tree / Kawa Kawa / Macropiper excelsum - toothache, upset tummy
    Pepperwood / Horopito / Pseudowintera colorata - leaves & tender branches steeped, use for chafing, wounds, bruises, cuts
    Rata / Rata / ???


    Edible (human)

    ??? / Hinau / Elaeocarpus dentatus
    ??? / Karaka / Corynocarpus laevigatus - flesh of berries, seed is poisonous
    ??? / Kiekie / Freycinetia banksii
    ??? / Tawa / Beilschmiedia tawa
    Black tree fern / Mamaku / Cyathea medullaris
    Cabbage tree / Ti Kouka / Cordyline australis - center of the head of the tree ,the base or pith(the white bit) of the spear like center can be eaten raw
    Fern root / Aruhe / Pteridium esculentum - carbohydrate, root cooked, then beaten to remove hard outer skin
    Sow Thistle / Puha / ???
    Suplejack / Kareao / Ripogonum scandens - soft tips are edible
    Watercress / Kowhitiwhiti / ???

    Great thread ebf

    I've made a few notes for myself that I take with me out hunting including some on deer browse plants. They aren't to hand at the moment but I'll hunt them out and compare notes.
    Just looking at your list now off the top of my head...
    Matagouri I'm not sure deer browse on these shrubs [as they have pretty thorny defences] but you often find deer, or sign, around them. I'd say that deer are there for the grass and the matagouri offers them the security of being able to graze within the cover of the shrubs.
    Pepperwood I don't think this is a favourite deer fodder, I'm sure they will browse on it when their other options are limited, but it's not something they'd seek out. Maybe it's a seasonal thing ie in the hard times of winter.

    I'd add my favourite alpine snack to your human edibles list Snowberries - yum
    Also Kawakawa makes a nice tea -hardly dilmah, but is quite refreshing.

    One thing I've been meaning to ask about is -are there any clear plant preferences that the stags have for stripping or polishing their antlers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by footsore View Post
    Deer food:

    Broadleaf / Kapuka / Griselinia littoralis
    Bushmans Friend / Rangiora / Brachyglottis repanda
    Crown Fern / Kiokio / Blechnum discolor - Whitetail
    Five Finger / Whauwhaupaku / Pseudopanax arboreus
    Seven Finger / Pate / Schefflera digitata
    Stinkwood / Hūpiro / Coprosma foetidissima
    Pepper Wood / ??? / ???
    Whiteywood / Mahoe / Melicytus ramiflorus
    Wild Irishman / Matagouri / Discaria toumatou - Fallow


    Nasty

    ??? / Karaka / Corynocarpus laevigatus - has a poisonous seed in its fleshy orange fruit
    ??? / Tītoki / Alectryon excelsus – contains cyanide-producing poisons
    Bushmans Lawyer / Tātarāmoa / Rubus cissoides
    Cutty grass / Toetoe / Austroderia
    Blueberry lilly, Inkberry / Turutu / Dianella Nigra - (purple) berries poisonous
    Gorse / ??? / Ulex europaeus
    Hookgrass/ ??? / Uncinia spp.
    Kangaroo Apple / Poroporo / Solanum aviculare, S. laciniatum – their unripe green berries are poisonous
    Kowhai / Kowhai / Sophora species – its yellow seeds are poisonous if chewed.
    Leatherwood / ? / Oleria colensoi
    Mousehole Tree / Ngiao / Myoporum Laetum - has poisonous leaves
    Spear Grass / ??? / ???
    Stinging Nettle / Onga Onga / Urtica Ferox
    Tutu / Tutu / Coriaria arborea - just about every part of the tree (roots, bark, berries) is poisonous



    Usefull / Medicinal

    ??? / Koromiko / Hebe stricta - eating young leaves is a remedy for constipation
    ??? / Kowhai / Sophora spp.
    Dock / ??? / ??? - treatment for Onga Onga sting
    Flax / Harakeke / Phormium colensoi & tenax - pulp of leaves & roots, heated, use for infections and boils
    Manuka / Manuka / Leptospermum scoparium - leaves made into tea for fever, ash for dandruff
    Mousehole Tree / Ngiao / Myoporum Laetum - repel sandflys and mosquito by rubbing the leaves on your skin
    Pepper Tree / Kawa Kawa / Macropiper excelsum - toothache, upset tummy
    Pepperwood / Horopito / Pseudowintera colorata - leaves & tender branches steeped, use for chafing, wounds, bruises, cuts
    Rata / Rata / ???


    Edible (human)

    ??? / Hinau / Elaeocarpus dentatus
    ??? / Karaka / Corynocarpus laevigatus - flesh of berries, seed is poisonous
    ??? / Kiekie / Freycinetia banksii
    ??? / Tawa / Beilschmiedia tawa
    Black tree fern / Mamaku / Cyathea medullaris
    Cabbage tree / Ti Kouka / Cordyline australis - center of the head of the tree ,the base or pith(the white bit) of the spear like center can be eaten raw
    Fern root / Aruhe / Pteridium esculentum - carbohydrate, root cooked, then beaten to remove hard outer skin
    Sow Thistle / Puha / ???
    Suplejack / Kareao / Ripogonum scandens - soft tips are edible
    Watercress / Kowhitiwhiti / ???

    Great thread ebf

    I've made a few notes for myself that I take with me out hunting including some on deer browse plants. They aren't to hand at the moment but I'll hunt them out and compare notes.
    Just looking at your list now off the top of my head...
    Matagouri I'm not sure deer browse on these shrubs [as they have pretty thorny defences] but you often find deer, or sign, around them. I'd say that deer are there for the grass and the matagouri offers them the security of being able to graze within the cover of the shrubs.
    Pepperwood I don't think this is a favourite deer fodder, I'm sure they will browse on it when their other options are limited, but it's not something they'd seek out. Maybe it's a seasonal thing ie in the hard times of winter.

    I'd add my favourite alpine snack to your human edibles list Snowberries - yum
    Also Kawakawa makes a nice tea -hardly dilmah, but is quite refreshing.

    One thing I've been meaning to ask about is -are there any clear plant preferences that the stags have for stripping or polishing their antlers?
    Stags hunt Tanekaha with a passion for the rub up. But they will use Pepperwood this seems to be second choice. Mountain Celery another choice. If there is not a lot of these species they will use manuka, kanuka and anything else available.

    A lot depend on the forest type they live In of course. The deer seemed to instinctively know that the top three tree types give a beautiful brown glow to their antlers. Farm deer will often have a dull grey coloured antler because prefered types are just not available.

    Up in the Alpine area we hunt there might only be one tiny Tanekaha in 500 hect of tussock and scrub but the stags find them alright and thrash the hell out of them.

    Interesting Tanekaha bark boiled was a favourite for years of the home tanner, It gave the skins a nice brown finish.
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    Mountain tutu has to be on the deer food list. Sika magnet in spring.
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    Mountain tutu - Coriaria Plumose

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    Interesting thread, Are there any good books available someone can recommend that I can match the names with pictures so i have a better chance of identifing them on my walks ..

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    Books:

    Andrew Crow
    Field Guide to Native Edible Plants
    Which Native Fern
    Which Native Forest Plant
    Which Native Tree

    John Dawson & Rob Lucas
    Nature Guide to the New Zealand Forest

    Johanna Knox
    A Foragers Treasury

    Websites:

    Nga Tipu Whakaoranga (Maori Plant Use)
    http://maoriplantuse.landcareresearch.co.nz

    Te Ara - The Encyclopedia of New Zealand
    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/native-p...ts and animals
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    This is one of the most authorative books on our native flora...written by Mrs E C Richards...well worth trying to locate one...

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