600M GUN

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Originally Posted by rewa

PS; Use a 6.5....any variety. Once the deer see it, they usually die on the spot, they know there's no point in running..and think what you'll save on ammo.. (6.5, what every .270 wants to be..)

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just bought the wife a 6.5 grendell, only went into the shops to get her some gloves
nek minnit "its my birthday soon........"

Is it too late to make popcorn?

So whats verdict
what cal did you get?

I hope he got a .260 as it’s the best calibre in the world. It has taken many things from Elephants, Buffalo to rabbits. I’ve seen one shoot to past 600m, it hit the rock at 629m, it rolled down the hill.
The rabbit and the limestone rock were both from the king country- tough over that way but it was easy for the 260.

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Originally Posted by Wirehunt

What a fucking hoot this thread is!

If you can whack a rabbit out to 230ish metres you can whack a deer at 600.
If you can't do the first don't do the second.

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How you going down south WH?Yes rabbits on a good day no problem at 400yds-500yds as HC and I know.Mind you we got the space and rabbits to practice on.;)

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Originally Posted by Trout

How you going down south WH?Yes rabbits on a good day no problem at 400yds-500yds as HC and I know.Mind you we got the space and rabbits to practice on.;)

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shooting a rabbit at 230 metres is a hell of a lot different than shooting a deer at 600m, a rabbit will die from a shot thats not placed perfectly anyhow due to his small bodysize and the energy the projectile imparts at that range, you have quite a bit of room for error that will still result in a quick death, shooting a deer at 600m you dont have that room for error at all

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Originally Posted by Tahr

My thoughts - it’s on the margin and maybe ok for an experienced shot but not for an average one using factory ammo I would advise a lot more horse power.

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I think personally if you really thinking of shooting out to 600m at game you be mad to use factory ammo.
Accuracy is so important and handloading you just get so much better accuracy and power than alot of factory ammo. 600m is pushing a 308 but theres plenty of yanks using one out to 800m on big elk with the right handloads so it must be capable but wouldnt dream using a factory load thou

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

shooting a rabbit at 230 metres is a hell of a lot different than shooting a deer at 600m, a rabbit will die from a shot thats not placed perfectly anyhow due to his small bodysize and the energy the projectile imparts at that range, you have quite a bit of room for error that will still result in a quick death, shooting a deer at 600m you dont have that room for error at all

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do the maths...it will/should tell all
rabbit weights about 500grms half a kg....maybe up to a kg if been on really good tucker
22lr projectiles weight 35-40 grains so what??? about 2 grams???
so a 250th or a500th of weight of animal
deer weighs 50-100kgs
so would need to be hit with a 50-100grm projectile for it to be similar..thats grams not grains

Iv put a few hunred 308 Hornady 165 ssts down the range between 600yds to 800yds when I had a Burris eliminator 4x16x50,feed in the bullet drop at 750yds and BC.zeroed at a 100yds and away you go.All that on my old Mossberg ATR 100.With no wind and all going well,shooting moa was no problem at 750yds.Deer at long range is another story,unless you have everything in yr favour,i wouldnt take the shot,walk closer,you still got to get the deer.Rabbits and roos are good fun to practice on.
Hornady 165 ssts is good ammo if your rifle likes it.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

do the maths...it will/should tell all
rabbit weights about 500grms half a kg....maybe up to a kg if been on really good tucker
22lr projectiles weight 35-40 grains so what??? about 2 grams???
so a 250th or a500th of weight of animal
deer weighs 50-100kgs
so would need to be hit with a 50-100grm projectile for it to be similar..thats grams not grains

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I dont think the original poster meant shooting a rabbit at 230m with a 22lr, just shooting a rabbit fullstop at 230m

shooting deer at 50 yards or rabbit at 50 yards maths still applies.... not a heck of alot different to .223 with varmit pills still be a HUGE hunk of lead to be the same for a deer.

looks like i got dragged into this thread...All you need is a stirling .14p bolt actiion .22lr rifle:D

If you want to be really cool then get a 7mm dakota or 7mm stw.

They're the real big 7's. Not a piddly little rem mag hahah

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Originally Posted by Dundee

looks like i got dragged into this thread...All you need is a stirling .14p bolt actiion .22lr rifle:D

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Way hey:thumbsup: @Dundee is back from the pond:XD::thumbsup::P

I don't own a magnum, but from what I have seen and used 300 win, 7mmrem, 338 Snipetac, 300 wsm. The 300 wsm with a can is the way to go for a 600 mtr gun. Topnotch factory ammo and a factory rifles that are light to carry and easy to shoot with a can and accurate.

Stalk close...shoot cleanly. That's what I was taught. Back in the-day, we called this 'hunting'. Too many factors at very long range, part of hunting, has to be ethics ? Just saying

This has turned into a somewhat entertaining thread for views on long range, but remember back to this one?

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....hunting-38835/

It will never be beat for three reasons:

1. 700m instead of 600m was proposed,

2. The OP kicked off with gems like " We're both new to any sort of long range hunting" followed by "firstly do the hunt and aim blindly shoot in the general direction of the animal in the hope that a bullet grazes it's hide".

3. The OP was then driven off the forum and they never posted on here again.

So the answer is clearly a Remington 5R in 300 Win Mag.

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Originally Posted by Puffin

This has turned into a somewhat entertaining thread for views on long range, but remember back to this one?

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....hunting-38835/

It will never be beat for three reasons:

1. 700m instead of 600m was proposed,

2. The OP kicked off with gems like " We're both new to any sort of long range hunting" followed by "firstly do the hunt and aim blindly shoot in the general direction of the animal in the hope that a bullet grazes it's hide".

3. The OP was then driven off the forum and they never posted on here again.

So the answer is clearly a Remington 5R in 300 Win Mag.

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It is quite amusing.
Question about long range shooting. Answer given stalk closer. Haha not really answering the question.
Very similar to people asking a question such as which calibre 270 or 308. Answer 243 brilliant haha

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Originally Posted by bigbear

Whats factory round capable of shooting out to around the 600m mark using factory rounds of the shelf for a hunting rifle.

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You'll never get most people shooting out to 600M, most get stuck back only at 6.5CM

7mm rem mag pretty much any modern hunting rifle.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

shooting deer at 50 yards or rabbit at 50 yards maths still applies.... not a heck of alot different to .223 with varmit pills still be a HUGE hunk of lead to be the same for a deer.

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Jesus Micky, yet with the right pill and placement the 223 works just fine on deer and pigs well past 200.
With the wrong pill any of the 7s will fail at the same ranges.

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Originally Posted by Remmodel7

It is quite amusing.
Question about long range shooting. Answer given stalk closer. Haha not really answering the question.
Very similar to people asking a question such as which calibre 270 or 308. Answer 243 brilliant haha

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That’s because the answer is the .243 out of those two options

.....Or...6.5 lol