"About 4 in with win subs and cci stingers"
Ive not seen a thing that says these shoot well, in fact about the worst, sure they are knock out rounds, shooting barn doors maybe. Funnily enough as I went around the gunshops in Wellington looking for 22 first thing everyone tried to sell me were stingers, I dont think anyone wants them. I have 5 x 22LR rounds to try in the cmmg conversion kit in my AR15, I didnt get stingers...CCI seem pretty good ammo, I have 50 "std" to see how they do. Couldnt get velocitors however.
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