See if you can have a crack on a grendel. They are a great we gun. Remember they have a bullet that is over twice the weight of most 223 bullets and with the higher bc retain 1000ft lb to almost 400 yards. I love shooting mine. I think the other point is the tiny rifle and action you can get them in. That is where I see the big advantage over downloading a 260 or creedmore. Haven't shot my 08 or my 223 since getting the 6.5g
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