Thread: Strange questions for builders / gunsmiths

Originally Posted by steven

Im a newbie but honestly I dont think you can get a jack of all trades gun that can do hunting and compete in F class past 600yds. Just one caliber in 308 and reload for 64cents means one set of dies and brass...but at 1000yds a 308 is all but finished, target yes, critters no. Pretty sure Trenthem range wont allow anything over 8mm btw so 308 or less really. I dont think you can shoot a 338, so 7mm? think thats good to 1600yds? For myself Im thinking howa, t3 or sako A7 in 308 with a 6x scope (so 2k) and then a "real" TR grade 308 gun with a decent scope, (so 2.5k+1.5k=4k) bye bye 6k.

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not a cheap sport...

Sako Finnlight or Tikka T3 7 mm Rem Mag
VX 3 or Mk4 4.5-14
162g A-Max @ 3050+ fps

Bush/Med and long range.

Dead deer.

One of abes custom lightweight hunters in a caliber of your choice + vortex or weaver superslam whallah.
Mine could do it all out to a thousand i reckon and i dunno bout fclass but it shoots .4moa ish out to 700 so far

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interesting responses, tx guys

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If i had any more space in my safe i would buy this, could be a good allrounder, 220gr for bush and some 168s for long range!

Not a bad rifle that. Buy it anyway spud im sure you could turn it up side down and fit it in like top and tail

Two more strange questions.

Does anyone know if the Savage magazines for the 16/Weather Warrior short actions are all the same external dimensions, and just use an internal spacer for different calibers similar to the Tikka T3 lineup ? I.e. Use a 223 mag in a 308 short action once the bolt face has been changed to the correct size ?

Also, what is the difference in TF barrels between the Ultramatch range and the Premium range. Is the metal the same, just more quality control one one, or actual physical differences ?

Originally Posted by ebf

Two more strange questions.

Does anyone know if the Savage magazines for the 16/Weather Warrior short actions are all the same external dimensions, and just use an internal spacer for different calibers similar to the Tikka T3 lineup ? I.e. Use a 223 mag in a 308 short action once the bolt face has been changed to the correct size ?

Also, what is the difference in TF barrels between the Ultramatch range and the Premium range. Is the metal the same, just more quality control one one, or actual physical differences ?

@ebf

There are different mags for the 08 and 06 family of case. All in the same family share the same mag. There is no spacer.
Photos show loaded 243 round in the 243 mag and an empty 270 case in the same mag. Neck of the 270 case roughly lines up with the end of the copper on the 243 projectile.

Originally Posted by ebf

Does anyone know if the Savage magazines for the 16/Weather Warrior short actions are all the same external dimensions, and just use an internal spacer for different calibers similar to the Tikka T3 lineup ? I.e. Use a 223 mag in a 308 short action once the bolt face has been changed to the correct size ?

My Savage 223 has a plastic spacer in the mag, so I presume its externally the same as a 308 one. One of very few pieces of plastic on the rifle. Its a Mod 14, but the same action as a 16 just blued rather than stainless.

As said the long actions are longer, its not like a Tikka where even a 223 is an -06 length action.

Thanks guys.

GM, it will be short action and short action, just not necessarily same "family". So 223 in 308 mag.

Not really looking at putting a short action cartridge into a long action mag.

I don't think an 08 mag will hold 223 rounds.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

I don't think an 08 mag will hold 223 rounds.

Yip, I'm not explaining myself real well...

Just wanted to know if a 223 savage mag has the same external dimensions as a 308 savage mag.

So if you change the bolt face, can you then use the 223 mag and all good ?

Well savage don't make a smaller action so I would say that the 223 and o8 mags will be the same OA length

Yes, pretty certain they're the same fitment and will work.

Blah blah etc:-
Just be aware if you're having to buy the magazine, as the axis-type mag (also in the lightweight hunter) is not the same as the standard savage magazine type, and will not be a suitable replacement.

The axis mag is mainly plastic and the release tab is built into the magazine, whereas with the magazine for weather warrior etc, the release tab is built into the bottom metal/magwell instead.

Originally Posted by StrikerNZ

Yes, pretty certain they're the same fitment and will work.

+1

I was after a spare mag and a couple of other bits, for an exta $50 I bought an entire second rifle.

You looking at the Savage as a base for the switch barrel ebf? Would be a good candidate with the barrel nut setup. Can easily swap bolt faces too. The Marlins are basically the same setup and judging my overseas forums a lot of parts can be swapped between makes.

Yup, barrel nut design and easy disassembly of bolt + availability of alternate bolt faces. Would be a "genuine" Savage (11,14 or 16), not Axis.

Gives me a bit more options to play with compared to Remmy, where I would pretty much be limited to same boldface, so that would be 308 and 22-250.