Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

NZGR Knives Africa


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 36 of 36
Like Tree30Likes

Thread: Bolt security

  1. #31
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    South of the Bombay Hills
    Posts
    12
    Agree with you Mikee. My ammo is stored in padlocked Pelican cases just because I like to know it can't be accessed quickly by people who should not have it.

    Also, no-one - even The Most Senior Wife - knows where said cases are; nor where safe keys and Pelican padlock keys are kept. Hint; I reckon it would take The Nefarious minimum 8 hours to find them key in the house even with 4 searchers and a lot of lateral thinking.

    The gun safes are of course obvious if you get entry to the basement, because they look like gun safes, duh, but by the time some lowlife enters my basement uninvited, xe has already transgressed grievously.

    But I take those precautions because I want to, not because of hoplophobes.

    I think many AOs have been infected by the Chris Cahill virus... IMO. YMMV as they say.
    Last edited by sightpicture; 12-01-2019 at 03:00 PM.
    mikee likes this.

  2. #32
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Central Otago
    Posts
    673
    Bagheera, the 'reasonable precautions' in Sec.2 all refer to the storage of firearms, not ammunition. Ammunition stored in a different location from the firearms is OK within the law. It is only when the firearms and ammunition are stored together (ie; in the same location or safe) that the firearms have to be disabled in some manner. Provided the firearms are stored in the proper security, the ammo can be in a separate cupboard inside a locked house and fully comply. Have you ever been in a sports shop and seen the ammo locked away? No, it is just sitting on the shelf separate from the firearms rack in a premises that gets annual security checks from the Police.
    Bagheera, mikee and sightpicture like this.

  3. #33
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    South of the Bombay Hills
    Posts
    12
    Gundoc; thank you. I had missed The Obvious. The gun shops I frequent do all, of course, have ammo out in the open, on shelves, where I can see it to buy.

    (Slaps self on forehead, wanders off muttering "Jeez, old age sucks...")

  4. #34
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    725
    It looks as if the Arms Regulations are different for dealers so check up before doing as they do.

    Gundoc, thanks for restating the issues about security for firearms vs ammunition. Well said.
    I don't think its bending over to store your bolt separately though. Now ... having a bolt that also requires a key to use it... That is crazy.

    What we have found is that there is no legal status or recognition of bolt removal, nor storage requirements for the bolt. It's common sense, if you have a bolt gun, but can't reasonably be applied to semis, shotguns and many others. If you choose a bolt action, you have the option of easily redoubling your safety margin (and your companions' at home and in the bush). Just don't loose the bolt ! It will cost you the same as a new gun to replace it and is more valuable the wrong hands.

  5. #35
    Member 10-Ring's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    895
    gundoc is correct in what he says. I will also add that there is no reason why ammunition can't be locked in the separate smaller compartment that many gun cabinets have.

    If you have any issues with the police vettor, constable or AO regarding security, ask them to show you in the Arms Act or the Arms regulations where the relative law is that they're trying to enforce. Of course, it's always a good idea to have firearm security that exceeds current requirements. The Arms Act and Arms Regulations are very dated in several areas when it comes to security.
    "The 257 Roberts, some people like to call it the .257 Bob. I think these people should be hung in trees where crows can peck at them." - David Petzal

  6. #36
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Posts
    176
    Quote Originally Posted by Bagheera View Post
    It looks as if the Arms Regulations are different for dealers so check up before doing as they do.

    Gundoc, thanks for restating the issues about security for firearms vs ammunition. Well said.
    I don't think its bending over to store your bolt separately though. Now ... having a bolt that also requires a key to use it... That is crazy.

    What we have found is that there is no legal status or recognition of bolt removal, nor storage requirements for the bolt. It's common sense, if you have a bolt gun, but can't reasonably be applied to semis, shotguns and many others. If you choose a bolt action, you have the option of easily redoubling your safety margin (and your companions' at home and in the bush). Just don't loose the bolt ! It will cost you the same as a new gun to replace it and is more valuable the wrong hands.
    Thats the problem.....quite a few do lose their bolts (can't remember where they put them),being in the trade we get people all the time enquiring after new bolts to replace the one they 'misplaced'.And as you say,for certain models of rifles it means a whole new rifle as thats the only way to get a replacement bolt!.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Security System
    By Bonecrusher in forum Off topic
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 18-03-2018, 10:45 AM
  2. SECURITY=SECRECY
    By 40mm in forum Firearm Safety
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-06-2017, 12:04 PM
  3. SECURITY=SECRECY
    By 40mm in forum Firearm Safety
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-06-2017, 09:49 PM
  4. Think you've got good security?
    By Ryan in forum Off topic
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 22-05-2017, 12:25 PM
  5. security changes
    By Timmay in forum Questions, Comments, Suggestions, Testing.
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 24-09-2016, 05:03 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!