Thread: Call to End Firearms Advertising.

There's some strange shit going on in her head if you look at her publications...

https://www.otago.ac.nz/healthscienc...x.html?id=1362

Originally Posted by Fawls

There's some strange shit going on in her head if you look at her publications...

https://www.otago.ac.nz/healthscienc...x.html?id=1362

Reading through all those titles has left me with a sense of satisfaction in Hera's ability to comment on firearms related issues.
She clearly has devoted much time to the subject and has a plethora of experience.

Originally Posted by 40mm

Reading through all those titles has left me with a sense of satisfaction in Hera's ability to comment on firearms related issues.
She clearly has devoted much time to the subject and has a plethora of experience.

Plethora? We don't need no stinking plethora!!!

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

Plethora? We don't need no stinking plethora!!!

Ain’t plethoras some kind of dinosaur?

All joking aside, it’s a sad day when the likes of Ms Cook get media coverage of her slanted and ignorant views and nobody has the right of rebuttal.

Originally Posted by Fawls

There's some strange shit going on in her head if you look at her publications...

https://www.otago.ac.nz/healthscienc...x.html?id=1362

After looking through the list I wonder how these papers would be viewed if they were written by a male instead of a female. Even as a academic I'm sure he would be viewed as some sort of pervert.

@308 - Agree wholeheartedly with what you said. Cigarettes and alcohol cause harm, and that is why advertising them is now in the naughty corner. Firearms could easily follow suit. I agree we need to campaign against any attack by using rational, cost-benefit based arguments, and publicise the lack of value from anti-firearm expenditure.

We should support any efforts to reduce harm from firearms, such as Dr Karl Bridges investigations into the underlying causes of shooting fatalities in hunting. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Karl-Bridges

We need to understand the power politics behind the scenes - I OIAd the underlying statistics around firearm deaths, and was rebuffed by the government agency that holds that information. I was then further stonewalled when I re-submitted the OIA with more clarification. That is but one example of what it is that we must understand to be able to effectively stand against zealots and fanatics who seek nothing less than a firearm free society.

Useful tactics may include:
determining the source of illegal firearms
examples of why a register cannot work
examples of the harm a register could cause
examples of incompetence by regulators
examples of inappropriate sentences where firearms have been held or used illegally
facts around firearms found at crime scenes - make, model and calibre, etc.
education of journalists, or offers to fact check media articles before they go to press

A single body that speaks for all shooters - regardless of whether they shoot F-class, 3-gun, trap and skeet, or hunt only, or target shoot only, or only collect firearms - is the single way we can achieve anything close to victory. Unity is strength.

I am pessimistic of our future. We lack unity, and this thread is a a harbinger of the defeat I foresee, because we cannot stand in agreement, we cannot argue our case rationally, and we constantly score own goals. Members are constantly laying into one another, making statements with a high cringe factor, arguing amongst ourselves where we should be agreeing, and generally behaving like children. This is often about subjects that aren't even obliquely related to firearms, hunting, or even the outdoors, and on occasion, even make us look like a textbook case for firearms control! A prime example is advice that flies in the face of legislation, which I have seen in more threads than I would like to.

I try to rise above the mud but admit I have been in it myself. If we could gain access a forum where our opponents spoke as freely and frankly as we do, without any regard for who is reading it, I am certain we would have all the ammunition (pun intended) that we need to sink them.

Im really regretting posting reply to this at all........ IN NO WAY was I trying to lower the tone or make a personal attack...purely pointing out that adds are not for everyone,and if one section of society has to put up with adds targeting another section of society...well that should be across the board.

Chloe has made all the headlines with her Alcohol Advertising ban and Hera has just jumped on the bandwagon chiefly promoted by ZB's Roman whatsisname.

I have to agree with posts above that state that all advertising has a targeted audience. Just because it doesn't relate to you doesn't mean it should be banned. Does she think all the gangsters in Auckland are reading hunting magazines to work out what firearm would be best for their next drive by.

Originally Posted by Fisherman

Maybe its also an expression of the most important conversation the west is having and I think desperately needs to have.

I agree, everywhere you look intolerant minorities are using "tolerance" against the majority.