Thread: Firearms ban in Western aussie

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

Some thing that has always stuck with me was a job I was involved with at Sanitarium years and years ago. It was building a machine to put cards into cereal boxes. The machine replaced a lady who used to sit on the line with a bunch of boxes holding different cards in front of her, and she would put one in each box of cereal as it went past.

She was a lovely person, but I very much doubt that she learned to write computer code when her job disappeared. We have lost thousands of those jobs. We used to build TV's here - now we buy them from China or Vietnam using money borrowed from overseas, and those jobs have gone also.

Anyone bought a NZ made or assembled car lately?

I know that there were inefficiencies in local protected manufacture - I was there. I also know that the thousands and thousands of people in those industries were getting more than a pay check out of them. Intangibles like pride, stability, self reliance, trade skills. Old fashioned stuff.

We didn't just throw the baby out with the bathwater, we hired a foreign contractor to do it and wondered where our middle class went afterwards.

On the other hand, Sir Steven and the Warehouse thank you for your contribution - maybe he could sponsor @mikee to take a day for Morris dancing.

yep we made tv's here in nz and they were crap!
spent my entire apprenticeship working on badly made junk

Originally Posted by gonetropo

yep we made tv's here in nz and they were crap!
spent my entire apprenticeship working on badly made junk

Me too. Philips K9, Pye 102,103 and 104s and worst of the lot Bell tvc-1 & 2.
Not to mention the locally made audio products....ooooooooo

Originally Posted by mikee

Me too. Philips K9, Pye 102,103 and 104s and worst of the lot Bell tvc-1 & 2.
Not to mention the locally made audio products....ooooooooo

plinius and pereaux werent bad. the k9 was telefunken at he end of the day. bell,majestic etc was just junk

Originally Posted by gonetropo

plinius and pereaux werent bad. the k9 was telefunken at he end of the day. bell,majestic etc was just junk

My parents had a K9, probably for close to 20 years.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

plinius and pereaux werent bad. the k9 was telefunken at he end of the day. bell,majestic etc was just junk

K9's were awesome.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

yep we made tv's here in nz and they were crap!
spent my entire apprenticeship working on badly made junk

And there is part of the answer.

I build a world class product in Taupo.

I see Larry Ellison's guys making a world class product in Wellsford.

Rocket Lab aren't too bad.

The local made stuff that was rubbish shouldn't have been tolerated - but in someone else's words, we suffered from the tyranny of low expectations.

I think we need to believe that NZ can be more than a country of baristas and bus drivers.

P.s. I'm not equating myself with Larry Ellison. What I'm saying is that we can do as well in the industries that scale to NZ as anyone else, anywhere else.

shoe factory was always touted as low skill job.....not anymore,the school schools and the likes are imported from cheap labour countries and all them local jobs are gone.

Off topic - there's at least one quality stereo speaker manufacturer in NZ https://theophany.co.nz/