Thread: firearms licence and trademe

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can buy guns on farce book as well (pun intended)

Originally Posted by Gapped axe

can buy guns on farce book as well (pun intended)

Not by their rules, however they only know if they are reported.

I had some muppet go off at me for pointing it out politely before the page was shut down. Real fit and proper person with the words he was calling me, threatening etc.




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Given the way Tardme are heading I will use them less and less for firearm related purchases in future.

What with gunstuff, sportshooter, miitaria auctions and dealing direct with the likes of NZRAC and Digit's NZAR15 I have more options than dollars so no complaints there

Funnily enough I sold my last firearm through word of mouth


Facebook can go fuck itself with a jagged fishknife

And now this.....https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...der-microscope

I love "But New Zealand First's Ron Mark says the rules are not good enough because sellers do not have to prove they have a licence."

You actually do because when you do the mail order transfer it has to have the sellers details including FA license on it before the police will sign it off. Also in the unlikely event some unlicensed person sold a gun on trade me to a licensed person isn't that a good thing because there is one less firearm in the hand of someone without a license?

I filled out a mail order form a few weeks back, going over it with the lady at the counter bla bla bla cute kids bla bla, we will confirm the details and check the serial number to make sure it is not stolen and we should have it processed this afternoon (which it was). The last bit surprised me, I was under the impression that they didnt have any database with details of stolen guns, unless they are just running it through a generic stolen goods database. Not that it is a bad thing either.... Just hadnt seen it mentioned in any of these threads before.

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

I filled out a mail order form a few weeks back, going over it with the lady at the counter bla bla bla cute kids bla bla, we will confirm the details and check the serial number to make sure it is not stolen and we should have it processed this afternoon (which it was). The last bit surprised me, I was under the impression that they didnt have any database with details of stolen guns, unless they are just running it through a generic stolen goods database. Not that it is a bad thing either.... Just hadnt seen it mentioned in any of these threads before.

That's only as good as people make it. You can run any number through NIA and if it's attached to something, it should show up. That could be a PRN, phone number, serial number on a TV, passport number etc..

In my experience the people who input anything through the Crime Reporting Line don't really grasp the helpfulness of entered data potentially down the line.. So if your rifle was stolen and had a serial number, you rang CRL, they took the details but entered them incorrectly (like just in the narrative text), later on someone could run that serial number and nothing would come up. Pretty frustrating.


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Originally Posted by Dougie

That's only as good as people make it. You can run any number through NIA and if it's attached to something, it should show up. That could be a PRN, phone number, serial number on a TV, passport number etc..

In my experience the people who input anything through the Crime Reporting Line don't really grasp the helpfulness of entered data potentially down the line.. So if your rifle was stolen and had a serial number, you rang CRL, they took the details but entered them incorrectly (like just in the narrative text), later on someone could run that serial number and nothing would come up. Pretty frustrating.


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To be honest I was surprised they did it at all since the requirement for the serial number on the forms is new. Yes I can see how it may not be particularly effective especially with various dashes and symbols in some numbers

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

To be honest I was surprised they did it at all since the requirement for the serial number on the forms is new. Yes I can see how it may not be particularly effective especially with various dashes and symbols in some numbers

I've only known this number to be entered if there has been an occurrence involving the firearm, eg it's been stolen.

The problem is with the admin per adding the number in a text document, not in a method that is able to be searched.

As far as I am aware, there is no database of firearms.

I'm not really sure how I would feel if there was - to be honest I would probably get over it pretty quick even if my initial reaction was a bit pissy. As an honest owner, I'm not sure how it would actually negatively effect me other than if such a database was leaked. Which is kind of the exact situation now anyway as my current address is listed along with the fact that I have a FAL and you could draw your own conclusions surrounding my possessions. Search Facebook for more than two seconds and you'll soon see what gear I own anyway.


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Originally Posted by Dougie

I've only known this number to be entered if there has been an occurrence involving the firearm, eg it's been stolen.

The problem is with the admin per adding the number in a text document, not in a method that is able to be searched.

As far as I am aware, there is no database of firearms.

I'm not really sure how I would feel if there was - to be honest I would probably get over it pretty quick even if my initial reaction was a bit pissy. As an honest owner, I'm not sure how it would actually negatively effect me other than if such a database was leaked. Which is kind of the exact situation now anyway as my current address is listed along with the fact that I have a FAL and you could draw your own conclusions surrounding my possessions. Search Facebook for more than two seconds and you'll soon see what gear I own anyway.


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You can make your privacy settings a bit better than that....

Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

To be honest I was surprised they did it at all since the requirement for the serial number on the forms is new. Yes I can see how it may not be particularly effective especially with various dashes and symbols in some numbers

Requirement? I think you may be confused.

I buy and sell lots of firearms related stuff through Trademe. Including a few firearms.

If I'm selling a gun I want to have the widest possible audience to see it.

If I'm looking at buying one, I want a better selection than the 40 pistols and overpriced AR15s on gunstuff.

I don't have any problem with giving Trademe my licence number to bid or ask questions. I've got some good deals and am very happy.

Originally Posted by systolic

I buy and sell lots of firearms related stuff through Trademe. Including a few firearms.

If I'm selling a gun I want to have the widest possible audience to see it.

If I'm looking at buying one, I want a better selection than the 40 pistols and overpriced AR15s on gunstuff.

I don't have any problem with giving Trademe my licence number to bid or ask questions. I've got some good deals and am very happy.

Good deals come from the users, not the site. If everyone moved from trademe, gunstuff would have your "good deals"