Thread: New FAL waiting time

Some vettors are rostered on to work weekends. I haven't heard of any that are limited to not working after 5 pm. Although, winter time is hard on vettors that work rural areas in the evening. Missing letterbox numbers and rainy nights trying to find the right address can't be much fun.

If you want your licence renewed then you're going to have to be prepared to make the time available. It's only once in 10 years. Applicants that expect everything to work in their favour is being unrealistic and unreasonable.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Some vettors are rostered on to work weekends. I haven't heard of any that are limited to not working after 5 pm. Although, winter time is hard on vettors that work rural areas in the evening. Missing letterbox numbers and rainy nights trying to find the right address can't be much fun.

If you want your licence renewed then you're going to have to be prepared to make the time available. It's only once in 10 years. Applicants that expect everything to work in their favour is being unrealistic and unreasonable.

Still, I stand by the statement I made earlier - couple of days notice when you aren't in the same island isn't the most user friendly for planning purposes. Nice that they are trying to get things through I guess, but just as they have lives that are busy and it can be hard juggling things at short notice... Especially when it's months or years after the application when you get the initial contact. If you made application, got phone call in a couple of days while the work and life things are fresh in your head it would be a lot easier. I'm well not sure what you mean by applicants expecting everything to work in their favour is unrealistic and unreasonable - any other renewal in the country appears to be processed in a week or less including CoC's, technical registrations, maritime and aviation once medicals and details are sorted, so I'm left wondering how Police can get it so badly stuffed up. It would seem to be a case of unrealistic expectations combined with chronic underinvestment in resourcing and equipping has just bitten one too many times and the end result is a completely nonfunctional system.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

If you want your licence renewed then you're going to have to be prepared to make the time available. It's only once in 10 years. Applicants that expect everything to work in their favour is being unrealistic and unreasonable.

Whats wrong with expecting the service to accommodate your situation?? Its bad enough that unlike every other licence which continues to remain valid until your renewal is issued (or otherwise) once your FAL expires you are forced to accommodate your personal property with others at your risk and can no longer go about your hobby as before.

Its police incompetence that causes the delays not generally the licence holder. Most of us apply well in advance to circumvent such incompetence and yet........................there it is

Originally Posted by mikee

Whats wrong with expecting the service to accommodate your situation?? Its bad enough that unlike every other licence which continues to remain valid until your renewal is issued (or otherwise) once your FAL expires you are forced to accommodate your personal property with others at your risk and can no longer go about your hobby as before.

Its police incompetence that causes the delays not generally the licence holder. Most of us apply well in advance to circumvent such incompetence and yet........................there it is

Licenses are required for a whole bunch of activities......
Drivers licence
health and beauty
markets
mobile trading
brothels
alcohol
food
funeral director
campground
home based businesses
rubbish and waste businesses
gambling
pilots
skippers
commercial fishing
transport
etc etc etc just to name a few

Most of those activities involve some risk to the public and some of them have the consequence of injuring or killing the population.
Most of them also require similar vetting to what is required for a firearms licence.
They also require relicencing from time to time.
The relicencing of these is straightforward and is done efficiently and quickly.

Society would come to a standstill very quickly if they were dealt with in the same way that FAL's are dealt with in regards to time delays....
Imagine not being able to drive for 12 mths, or buy alcohol or fish, get rid of rubbish, fly anywhere, bury your relatives, get your hair cut, catch a bus or train, build a house etc etc etc.....

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Some vettors are rostered on to work weekends. I haven't heard of any that are limited to not working after 5 pm. Although, winter time is hard on vettors that work rural areas in the evening. Missing letterbox numbers and rainy nights trying to find the right address can't be much fun.

If you want your licence renewed then you're going to have to be prepared to make the time available. It's only once in 10 years. Applicants that expect everything to work in their favour is being unrealistic and unreasonable.

Margaret who is assigned to vetting my license only works 8-5

I had to take time off with one day's warning and make myself available for this rigmarole and they still haven't got their shit together
They took a year to do my collector's pre--covid so covid is no excuse

If you don't think that the police have some sort of vendetta going against us then it has to be plain utter incompetence on their part and I'm fed up with their bullshit excuses

Well…could be worse.
I’m looking at how I would import firearms when I move there. They say, I need a firearm license but for the firearm license I have to have a interview and tests and a place to store in NZ and a referee of NZ who’s known me for 3 years. Those are a lot of things that I can’t do whilst out of the country. Trying to sort out a way.