Thread: Safe place to store ammo?

Originally Posted by Savage1

This is NZ, NZ isn't a Police state, far from it. If you think otherwise then I suggest again that you spend a night on the beat.

You're right, it's not, because police don't have that sort of power.

Not all random spot checks amount to a breach of privacy, your broad sweeping statement is wrong.

The power to conduct random spot checks enables unreasonable breach of privacy.

Vetting isn't 100% reliable, this is shown when licences are revoked.

And licenses are revoked for good cause, presumably, not "because you feel like it". So you can't search my house "because you feel like it"

I don't assume that everyone is a criminal, spot checks are a necessary preventative measure in certain situations. Checking a person doesn't mean that they're being assumed to be a criminal.

In those cases you'll have probable cause then.

Where did I say that everyone was a criminal? Or are you making an assumption? Where did I say that there was no corruption in the Police? Another stupid assumption? Where did I say the Police need more powers? Stop assuming that I've either said or think something to try and further your argument which is what you have done for your entire last paragraph, making it irrelevant.

You opposed my statement that "the police should not have power to make random spot checks without probable cause". Opposing that implies that you believe that the police should have that power, which literally means you do support increased police powers.

You haven't said that there is no corruption in the police but your statements strongly imply that you distrust all who aren't police, while strongly implying that you believe that the police should have increased (easily abused) powers

Did you get hurt feelings because somebody told you what to do or pulled you over?

No,I just firmly believe in civil rights, nice little ad hominem though