Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Originally Posted by gsp follower

is intent knowlingly breaking the law for some spurious supposed public good/ratings?? i think yes?did she talk to her boss about doing this i imagine she had to clear it in this litigious scratch my back era??
would she have got a legal opinion in this day of arse covering?probably

Mark Weldon was the CEO of Media Works at the time & according the NZ Herald clip that I have he gave the go ahead for the team to proceed with their scam.

When Nic Taylor finishes tearing the whole lot of the scheming bathplugs to pieces in court, they won't know if they've been punched,drilled or countersunk!!!! The sooner & more publicly done the better.

Originally Posted by stug

As much as i hate to say it, she would not have been found guilty at court. Even though she broke the law her intent was not criminal. And that is what the defence would have focussed on. I think though that should Tipple go ahead with his civil case he would win as the bar is lower for a civil conviction.

Her intent was definitely criminal as that is what she was tying to show, if not then she wouldn't have had a story. It would be exactly the same as driving a car at 160km/h though downtown Wellington to show it can be done even though knowing that it is illegal.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

It would be exactly the same as driving a car at 160km/h though downtown Wellington to show it can be done even though knowing that it is illegal.

And the police response is the equivalent of using that as justification to lower the speed limit from 50 to 30km/h.

Originally Posted by GravelBen

And the police response is the equivalent of using that as justification to lower the speed limit from 50 to 30km/h.

Also it means we should ban Nissan Skylines, it doesn't matter if it was actually done with a rental Corolla because *everybody knows* that psycho drivers are attracted to Skylines.

Mark Weldon was the CEO of Media Works at the time & according the NZ Herald clip that I have he gave the go ahead for the team to proceed with their scam.

jon boys bum chum you mean

When Nic Taylor finishes tearing the whole lot of the scheming bathplugs to pieces in court, they won't know if they've been punched,drilled or countersunk!!!! The sooner & more publicly done the better]

how public will it get if the media sticks together and stays away or worse stays quiet.

im still waiting on a reply from story as to whether garners a licenced firearms user

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Her intent was definitely criminal as that is what she was tying to show, if not then she wouldn't have had a story. It would be exactly the same as driving a car at 160km/h though downtown Wellington to show it can be done even though knowing that it is illegal.

Or being caught driving over the limit. "Sorry officer I didn't INTEND to drink quite so much but I was trying to show others its possible " try that one and see where you end up

thats what shit about the whole mess
the cops want public help when it suits them but when we want to see everybody treated the same, and therefore have something to base the old respect they used to have on ?they let us down .
percieved or not this is a nail in the coffin of the one law for all claims of crusher and the supposed law and order party.
yep we are tough on boy racers tough on fine dodgers
tough on tax evasion oops firearms crime oops burglary including upteen dealer and collector firearms robberies still unsolved oops

As I was taught in a first year uni law paper... "Justice must not only be done, but be seen to be done"

Originally Posted by GravelBen

As I was taught in a first year uni law paper... "Justice must not only be done, but be seen to be done"

THAT is exactly the point.

Police say they have recovered another pistol from a large collection of guns allegedly sold by a Coromandel collector on the black market.

The Glock automatic pistol was found in a bag by a man who stopped his car on State Highway 25, near Thames on Friday. A sawn-off shotgun was found nearby.

"Operation Might" head Detective Senior Sergeant Greg Nicholls said the pistol was one of 121 restricted weapons police allege collector John Noel Mabey sold on the black market.

Six other weapons have been recovered.

Mabey's collector's licence was revoked at the end of August when he was arrested on 20 firearms offences and a charge of making a false statement to police.

He told police 121 pistols, semi-automatic rifles and sub-machine guns were stolen.

Police offered an amnesty for the return of the haul of weapons.

Mr Nicholls said a man driving on the Kopu-Hikuai Rd stopped to toilet his dog last Friday and found the pistol and shotgun in bush off the road and contacted police.


"While we are grateful two more weapons are off the street police want to remind the public another 114 weapons, including sub-machineguns, pistols, assault rifles and machineguns remain unaccounted for."

his best chance is to change his name to du plesssis allan:
:

Most of the illegal firearms are stolen in residential burglaries or from collectors by organised criminal groups, police documents released under the Official Information Act show.

"Research indicates there is already a large pool of illegally held firearms in New Zealand and that firearms of almost any type can be obtained relatively easily from within the criminal fraternity without needing to source illicit firearms from overseas," according to the 2011 National Strategic Assessment paper.

But a request for the total number of guns reported stolen in each police district over the past years was refused - because the records do not exist.

really really fuckin realy
then get off our cases and catch the c...s who are doing it and put the blame and shame where it belongs not on the average law abiding gun owner/user

Originally Posted by gsp follower

his best chance is to change his name to du plesssis allan:
:

really really fuckin realy
then get off our cases and catch the c...s who are doing it and put the blame and shame where it belongs not on the average law abiding gun owner/user

Three shorts out of the Mabey stash have been used against police already. How that fucker isn't in jail for 20 years I'll never understand. It's reasonably well-known who stood him over and why.

I sent this to the "NZ Herald" this morning: Last year HdPA contravened the Arms Act wilfully by using another person's firearms licence and false details in order to purchase a firearm, thus committing a criminal act. Her rationale was to expose a "loophole" in the firearms purchasing system. The Police decided not to lay charges against her. Recently a man obtained some firearms by forging a firearms licence and using incorrect forms. If he is apprehended and chooses to use the same defence as Heather (exposing a "loophole"), will the Police treat him similarly? I think not.

Originally Posted by Ranger 888

I sent this to the "NZ Herald" this morning: Last year HdPA contravened the Arms Act wilfully by using another person's firearms licence and false details in order to purchase a firearm, thus committing a criminal act. Her rationale was to expose a "loophole" in the firearms purchasing system. The Police decided not to lay charges against her. Recently a man obtained some firearms by forging a firearms licence and using incorrect forms. If he is apprehended and chooses to use the same defence as Heather (exposing a "loophole"), will the Police treat him similarly? I think not.

I may have missed the answer to this question somewhere in all the comments on this subject?? But: What was the "loophole" in the previous mail order procedure?????

F'kd if I could see one apart from forgery and impersonation of police arms office people!!!!! & other criminal PREMEDITATED acts.

Originally Posted by top gun

I may have missed the answer to this question somewhere in all the comments on this subject?? But: What was the "loophole" in the previous mail order procedure?????

F'kd if I could see one apart from forgery and impersonation of police arms office people!!!!! & other criminal PREMEDITATED acts.

Umm, this was answered and you ticked 'like' in March.

Originally Posted by Steve123

The loop hole was that someone could use someone else's firearms licence number,and impersonate a police constable to make a fraudulent document to obtain a firearm through online/mail order sales.

Except it wasn't a loophole, but a flaw in the system that people believed a piece of paper mailed to them because they wanted to.

+1 for @Gibo , this is old news and has gone to bed a long time ago.

[QUOTE ]I am the holder of a Firearms Licence and of 18 years of age and over. I acknowledge that all information I will provide during checkout procedure is true and correct and that it is an federal offence to offer false information reguarding this.
By law your name address and firearms licence details must be recorded on a reciept and kept ,for all firearms , and parts transactions.][/QUOTE]

lucky she didnt auzzie pull her stunt in auz.
they really dont give a monkeys its only the law abiding they incovenience and put cost onto.
all the while living under the protection of the most damaging of guns ,in the hands of udertrained operators,which they wouldnt hesitate to call on if they felt threatened.