Thread: Why frontline cops should be armed

Originally Posted by Danny

I cannot understand this thread although I read and accept most points of views- some are wildly generic and plain nonsense, reminding me of a relative of mine whom has a Dr in front of his name, he is often fucked when building a deck, changing a tyre or nappy or talking any sense at all.

The police ARE armed but unfortunately no one can foresee into a crystal ball. Police routinely 'tool' up when attending a certain address or addressing an individual because of the history that some have so those who have no idea should just mow their lawns or go pull their pud...that you may be actually qualified to do...

No one can pick a David Gray or a Napier situation or a random 3T in a back country road that turns bloody ugly within seconds. So we need to accept shit happens, the PC brigade will always squeak the loudest, police will always be under resourced, under trained-and that's another matter entirely imo but the Police work bloody hard to protect YOUR family and friends and property.

But...God I hope we never see the general public allowed to bare arms in public; (like America), that would be a bad day indeed.
Now, I'm off to pull my pudding.

Had a good laugh at most of this thread since it started, some good posts such as this ^^, some others just make my mind boggle and reinforce that the notion that arming the public is ridiculous...

As stated through this thread Police have access to firearms, taser other appointments for any job where we believe they are necessary - you certainly don't meet a knife head on with a taser,so firearms are not always for firearm related jobs.

I think we should celebrate the lack of Police shootings considering jobs with knives (weapons) and firearms occur almost daily in most of the regions, your just not privy to them - or they are not good story's?

99% of the time decision making is sound and there are good outcomes for all, the 1% is what the armchair experts dwell on and regurgitate.

MY 2C

Originally Posted by Smartie

that arming the public is ridiculous...

Rather then currently being presented with rhetoric & anecdotal evidence that the police "should" be armed, actual data needs to be ascertained. Then there is a fair argument for both the police and everyday citizens for self-defence.

I get that CC for some people may seem 'over-the-top' & unnecessary in this country (and you are probably right...) but we have to consider there are some very run down and potentially dangerous regions in NZ where good honest everyday people with FAL's have to live. I don't think it's unrealistic or ridiculous for those people to have at least an option for home defence. It's more a natural right that goes far beyond the legislation we have now.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Rather then currently being presented with rhetoric & anecdotal evidence that the police "should" be armed, actual data needs to be ascertained. Then there is a fair argument for both the police and everyday citizens for self-defence.

I get that CC for some people may seem 'over-the-top' & unnecessary in this country (and you are probably right...) but we have to consider there are some very run down and potentially dangerous regions in NZ where good honest everyday people with FAL's have to live. I don't think it's unrealistic or ridiculous for those people to have at least an option for home defence. It's more a natural right that goes far beyond the legislation we have now.

This bloke is a good example of someone who needs more than a cell phone to defend himself:

Farmer credited for security in fuel theft | Stuff.co.nz

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

This bloke is a good example of someone who needs more than a cell phone to defend himself:

Farmer credited for security in fuel theft | Stuff.co.nz

Fucking arseholes. They were armed too. If the farmer was allowed to get thier attention by racking a shottie in the shadows, they'd have both the cunts in custody wouldn't they?

Also, do you like ""By their very nature farms are an attractive target for opportunistic burglars, given their isolation and the likelihood of fuel, tools and vehicles being accessible". - what a load of horseshit. What is 'opportunistic' about being on a farm in the middle of the night with a knife or whatever? They are just about trying to downplay it as if the toads walked into the bowser in the dark! They planned that, and there's no fucking way I'd believe that was thier first rodeo.