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Thread: Dogs for pheasants, upcoming litters?

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    a spaniel under control should never hunt out of shot gun range.... no good flushing them 100m out.

    a pointing breed will/can range 100+ each side.
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    Yea that makes sense

    So why can having a spaniel mean a lot of extra walking over having a pointer? Is that because a pointer can work a lot further out and will point instead of flushing the bird when out of shotgun range? Genuine question

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    pretty much, you can hunt a lot more country.
    it may be dictated by the type of country but I tend to do most of the prospecting with my pointing dogs and go back with my spanners to hunt the areas that hold the birds rather than waste time on dead ground.

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    Andrew46826, this is good country for a spaniel....

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    pointers and setters can really stride out on this...

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    Right I see! Awesome thanks for that
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    Why not a springer then Wildman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wirehunt View Post
    Why not a springer then Wildman?
    Have thought about it WH but really would like a pointing breed... The versatility would be a great advantage.

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    Why not a wirehair Wildman? it looks like Kawhia has brought in plenty of the good stuff lately ask him
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    Ok a fair while ago I hunted far north NZ over a pointer tea tree pheasant wide open spaces awesome.
    Dog went out wide and far. Pointed you walked up flushed shot to the point.
    Her in the UK I've a cocker, I have him hunt in close no more than five meters you hunt gun up. Or what I call gun quarter.
    Almost in the pocket of your shoulder. The dog flushes you shoot.
    So it's two differant shooting styles. Two differant hunting scenarios. Also two differant dogs.
    I started with Labs on a pond when I was six. You need to look at your Terran and chose the dog that suites your situation, family, hunting style and yout livening situation.
    Every body, plus dog is differant.
    To me so long as he's your mate your half way there all else is a bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pointer View Post
    Why not a wirehair Wildman? it looks like Kawhia has brought in plenty of the good stuff lately ask him
    Yeah have considered them thanks. Not really my thing, tend to be bigger dogs, not a fan of the rough coat and the temperament is a little stronger than id like. There is also a DDbreeder here in PNth. Not sure how those DK's compare temperament wise @kawhia?

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    I don't want to talk you into a wire, but the new dogs we have are smaller and shorter coated than the typical kiwi gwp, have a better temp and better instinct for pointing and water work.... you are welcome to hook up for a hunt next season to see them in the field.

    the DK litter due very soon will be very interesting as it is the first litter of purebred german lines bred to stay out of the nzkc gene pool, the bitch fender in med size and a strong pointer and retriever.
    the owner is looking for homes with hunters keen to put them through the jghv system, which will mean ongoing training support to get the most from the pup will be available, fender has a great temp.

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    I'm not a fan of these shorter coated wires from what I've seen myself. I think they are getting so close to a GSP that you might as well just get one of them.

    That is just my view.
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    The shorter haired WH's coats still seem to be wirery and thatched. I'm sure they would be a lot warmer and water proof than the GSP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawhia View Post
    I don't want to talk you into a wire, but the new dogs we have are smaller and shorter coated than the typical kiwi gwp, have a better temp and better instinct for pointing and water work.... you are welcome to hook up for a hunt next season to see them in the field.

    the DK litter due very soon will be very interesting as it is the first litter of purebred german lines bred to stay out of the nzkc gene pool, the bitch fender in med size and a strong pointer and retriever.
    the owner is looking for homes with hunters keen to put them through the jghv system, which will mean ongoing training support to get the most from the pup will be available, fender has a great temp.
    Am keen on those DK's so keep us updated.

    Thanks for the offer I'll be keen for a hunt if it works out for sure.

    I've never really had a problem with the gsp coat with cold or water, in fact over heating is probably more of a risk to me it would seem in the sunny north island

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    [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kawhia/media/12038228_1597005357186932_4959459059217210723_n_zp spupclypw.jpg.html]baron and fender, solid Hege-haus breeding.....if you look up the dk history you will soon come across this well regarded kennel.

    and a shorter coated DD, I think the body shape and build difference is there if you look hard enough.
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