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Originally Posted by RCGSP
thats what i was talking with ruff about (off forum) ,, that would be the hardest part
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Originally Posted by RCGSP
thats what i was talking with ruff about (off forum) ,, that would be the hardest part
the cocker blood is here too bro, we have another one due to hit the sand in dec, in pup with a repeat mating to the current crop of upcoming uk fch's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaimaicockher
thats the biggest issue, my next import is going to be a young pup, from a sire i want and a bitch line i'm familiar with.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCGSP
I was about to say the cockers have plenty of support too. Good luck with the new imports kawhia!
Is there much difference between the Cocker and Springer in both temperament and work
springers are bigger, eat more, pretty boring to look at and supposed to be easier to train, a springer will bash cover just for the hell of it.
cockers are smaller, eat less, look better {esp when eyewiping there bigger cousins}, absolute cunts to train {not} and so long as there something to chase inside enjoy cover.
both types should have a typical spaniel temp.
how did Erlandson put it, 'a springer for sport, a cocker for punishment'?
little people or devil dogs.... i like to think the working cocker has improved since erlandsons days.
I really enjoy his writing style. I love how he describes Speckle of Ardoon in the final pages of "Gundog Training". Brilliant. Anyway, back to tadpole posicles
back to the real guts of the thread yeah, so who wants a english setter pup if i get a bitch in from oz ??????
Hi el borrancho
I know nothing about this one but still may be of some help... I am currently waiting on a weimerana from a breeder in whanganui who is importing the semin from Germany (and mixing 2 different sires)
they may be some help to you
Greyflight weimeranas in whanganui. google them.
Hope this helps
one has to ask the question, wei?
This will be a very good litter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointer
There is already talk of breeding the pick of this litter back to a NZ line also.
Is there much of the Wingfield "w" and "x" litters alive Cmore?
They are about but to old for any breeding use. X litter will be 11 years old now.
there has been a few wingfield x berryfield litters breed since the last of Leons breeding
cool ! what lines are you bring in ,, did you get to run that import you got now in any of the trails just been ? will be interesting to see what they run likeQuote:
Originally Posted by kawhia
sorry to hijack guys :P
I hope to see setter people at the trials in Ngruawahia on the 2nd sept and chat about bitches
will both of then be there ?
bought a fch titled bitch,from fch masserdderwyn sire fch rowston bitch, and be in pup to another masserdderwyn fch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaimaicockher
didn't attend trials this season....... the new boy has had a bit of hunting though.
so few,really.its been years since ive been to a trialQuote:
Originally Posted by kawhia
the numbers attending are not big, and by the time you cross off the hpr's, pointers and other setters you might see an english running........ might
Braced trial entries-
15 running sat am
6 red hair balls
4 Shorthairs
2 Pointers
2 Gordons
and one English setter
17 running sat pm (2 extra hairy red things)
15 sunday morning
14 in in the novice sunday pm
5 reds
3 pointers
2 shorthairs
2 vizslas
1 Gordon
1 weim
You mean after you cross off the Irish you might see another dog there?Quote:
Originally Posted by kawhia
Im running mine in the novice on Sunday as we havent trained for years for trials -gotta start again
Ryen, presumably you're running......Where is everyone staying / getting on the piss Saturday night? Dave's place?
Is dave still in Ngaruawahia
I must be missing something. You aren't on the draw sheetQuote:
Originally Posted by el borracho
Yeah I'll be there with 1 or 2. No idea yet. I don't even know where the trial is yet. I don't plan that far ahead hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by gqhoon
Sunday -novice on the 2nd -I should be there
Have you entered?
yes , I sent fee to Francis Connor and re joined the club -- just trying to call her but she is not at home
didnt the enrties close about a month ago
yes I think that could be the problem Z - I emailed the web site and that email wasnt working or still isnt so if they had done the draw it may be why I am not showing as they included me as a late entry because I had tried through the correct system to make contact --I hope!!
Just get ahold of Frances
Im really looking forward to trialing again , please introduce yourselves to me on Sunday --my dog is INTI a blue belton
Agree, entries closed on 10th August. Get hold of Frances ASAP.
frances.connor@gmail.com
Email sent -thanks for her email as I dont have it here at work
What could you get in Aussie that we don't have here?Quote:
Originally Posted by kawhia
a breedable bitch for starters.
for all the talk over the last few years over the lack of pointers and setters and the aging and declining numbers over all, when is some one actually going to start doing something other than talk about pedigrees and who and how it used to be, all it takes is for some one to step up and do it.
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we did Kawhia, we tried twice to breed from this bitch but both times were unsuccessful, so now we are looking at other options
I think you have summed it up before, it's a matter of demand. There are bitches here, I can think of three, so no doubt the setter guys will know of more. The Aussie import Masterfind Ida, Hendrens bitch pup who is nearly all sharnberry, Blackfield kennels has one which I think is Berryfield bred, no doubt Noel Allen has one. As this is merely a passing observation no doubt there will be more.
