Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Alpine DPT


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 47
Like Tree94Likes

Thread: Advice on training a Vizsla that has been re-homed.

  1. #16
    Pure-bred Mutt
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Tai Tokerau
    Posts
    2,251
    Also, dogs don't speak english. To them, you're a less hairy thing that gets around on it's hind legs, and where food comes from.

    Case in point, mate has a dog that barks, so the owner "barks" back (shaddup rex!), now it's a game and we're barking together, what fun!

    Dog would interpret owner's "shaddup" as most people would train "speak"

    The words/noises don't matter as long as there's consistent association. You could train her in german or irish for all she cares.
    Last edited by mimms2; 19-04-2020 at 10:10 AM.
    Pete_D likes this.
    Diligentia Vis Celeritas
    Life Advice

  2. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Gisborne
    Posts
    207
    Awesome guys, some really useful advice and thanks for taking the time to comment. I will keep you posted.

  3. #18
    Member Micky Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Geraldine
    Posts
    6,320
    I disagree...sit and stay CAN BE diferent commands...but sit is sit untill you are told otherwise so stay is redundant......if you need stay to MAKE the dog continue sitting,your sit isnt rock solid.
    sit can mean arse on ground...and stay lie down and wait......BOTH mean dont go anywhere untill told to.
    Pete_D likes this.

  4. #19
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Mangakino
    Posts
    680
    Agree with micky duck.
    Having a stop/sit is vital.
    I got a weimaraner at 18 months that had run loose with another dog.
    She was bought up with kids so did have manners around people.
    Run it on a long lead and teach stop/sit and you are in control.
    Best heading dog I had was 12 months old when I got her so age isnt to much of an issue.
    Some dogs get started to early.
    My father farmed his pups out to his sister in Dunedin then got them back with manners and not started too early.
    Moa Hunter and Pete_D like this.

  5. #20
    Member mikee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Nelson, New Zealand
    Posts
    7,968
    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    I disagree...sit and stay CAN BE diferent commands...but sit is sit untill you are told otherwise so stay is redundant......if you need stay to MAKE the dog continue sitting,your sit isnt rock solid.
    sit can mean arse on ground...and stay lie down and wait......BOTH mean dont go anywhere untill told to.
    Stop is something I have not trained my dogs for in the past but with new pup will do so
    Stop command (to me) on a bird dog means stop (including when on point) and wait there till I come get you and release you. Also handy anywhere else you may need to stop your dog from inadvertanly coming to harm.
    Once of the worst things with my current pointers is they both have a tendancey to chase after the first shot. I don't like this personally but was my fault / poor training.
    Sit to me is neither here nor their as most of my dogs seem to pick that up as we go anyway.
    Moa Hunter, Micky Duck and Pete_D like this.

  6. #21
    Member outdoorlad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    2,044
    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    And he did it sober
    Shut up, get out & start pushing!

  7. #22
    Member rugerman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Horowhenua
    Posts
    516
    I don't see any point in splitting hairs about what command you use for the dog to sit and/or stay. You can use anything you like as long as the dog knows what you mean and you are consistent with it. No dogs don't speak English, but sounds are very important to the dog which picks up tone and intonation and associates that sound to what you want it to do. You don't need to use language, just tones and sounds, but as long as they are consistent.
    I also think the "leave it" command is very useful to teach them, as you can use it for anything to let the dog know you don't want it to engage with whatever the new or bad thing is ( dog, car, dead possum, rat bait etc..).
    All roads lead to Rome as long as you are consistent and establish the dogs' position in your pack ( or bubble as we seem to be using lately ). Of course since you have an older dogs already, I'm sure you are sorted on the basic obedience stuff
    Moa Hunter and Pete_D like this.

  8. #23
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Taranaki
    Posts
    2,707
    We did this with a 5 month old Lab bitch . She had lived with an idiot and had very little training . Coming up for a year old next week but still a long way to go.

    Best advice I can give is be consistant. That really means dont let your wife or kids train the dog ever .....
    tetawa, rugerman, mikee and 1 others like this.
    Cats have nine lives-which makes them ideal for experimentation...

  9. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cambridge
    Posts
    905
    the best way to get a deer dog with a bird dog pup is to wait out the growing years, sounds like you have a head start.... as she will be a family pet more than a hunting for most of the year just work on that for the time being, slowing build in the obedience and heel work.
    mikee, Micky Duck and Pete_D like this.

  10. #25
    Member rugerman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Horowhenua
    Posts
    516
    lol yeah Muzza, I've seen kids that have suffered from parents not being consistent. They are usually little shitbags
    Pete_D likes this.

  11. #26
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cambridge
    Posts
    905
    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    I disagree...sit and stay CAN BE diferent commands...but sit is sit untill you are told otherwise so stay is redundant......if you need stay to MAKE the dog continue sitting,your sit isnt rock solid.
    sit can mean arse on ground...and stay lie down and wait......BOTH mean dont go anywhere untill told to.
    i use stay, down or platz, if you have a running bird dog the stop is built off it......sit like recall are the first steps, teaching a decent stay and the start of 'whoa' training come in as you get the relationship going
    Moa Hunter, Micky Duck and Pete_D like this.

  12. #27
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Location
    Dunedin
    Posts
    176
    Deer dog training blueprint is top notch. Highly recommended.

    Doesn't just teach you how to teach commands. It teaches you how to have a dog that understands how to behave in the human world. Oh, and how to train your dog to be a deer hunting machine.
    Pete_D likes this.

  13. #28
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Gisborne
    Posts
    207
    Quote Originally Posted by Edunn View Post
    Deer dog training blueprint is top notch. Highly recommended.

    Doesn't just teach you how to teach commands. It teaches you how to have a dog that understands how to behave in the human world. Oh, and how to train your dog to be a deer hunting machine.
    Yea that has come up a lot so will have to check it out. Do you subscribe ? for $27 per month that doesn't seem too bad.

  14. #29
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Gisborne
    Posts
    207
    Here's Bella, we've had her just on a week now and shes doing good. Lots of bad habits from her old uncontrolled days but between us and our old GSP shes on boot camp. Cheers
    Attached Images Attached Images  

  15. #30
    Member Chur Bay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Cambridge
    Posts
    651
    Nice looking Hound.
    Good luck with the training.
    It a frustrating journey at times but well worth it when you start knocking over a few deer.
    Pete_D likes this.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Vizsla breeders
    By bigbear in forum Hunting Dogs
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 15-09-2019, 07:44 PM
  2. Someone save this Vizsla ffs.
    By Ricochet in forum Hunting Dogs
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 18-05-2018, 11:30 PM
  3. FS: Vizsla x pups
    By Hindquarters in forum Buy, Sell or Swap
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 18-01-2017, 03:04 PM
  4. GSP X Vizsla for sale
    By Plade in forum Hunting Dogs
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 26-07-2016, 11:31 AM
  5. deer dog training advice
    By outinabout in forum Hunting Dogs
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 16-09-2013, 11:18 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!