Calibers

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Originally Posted by Spanners

Was really a rhetorical question...



You can be given all the data in the world, but if it differs from is given to you by who you want to follow, then what actual point is there as it will just be slated 'wrong'

If I presented data hypothetically for say 300gr @ 3500 on a off the shelf action @ 65000psi there would be all sorts of BS and 'unsafe' called out because the data (some of it obtained from a known non-quantifiable device) differs
How can you ever get acceptance???

As I stated prior, there is lot going on and data that will never see the light of day for the simple fact that it is 'differs' and will be shot down... some of it is over 5 yrs old and shot damn near daily.

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If there is lots of data, and its been shot daily for 5 years, does that not prove that the accepted norm is out of date and there is a new level of performance out there? Probably does, and if that sort of bulk of data was summarised and made available to perspective buyers, they could make up their own mind about whether they want to be part of the "revolution".

I am certainly not adverse to trying something new out, but I also like to research that thing as much as possible before buying. If the information is viable, and supported by hard data, then why not release that data. I don't by any means mean release the secret as to what made the revolution possible, that makes no sense from a business point of view, but then neither does saying nothing at all...

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Originally Posted by The Claw

If there is lots of data, and its been shot daily for 5 years, does that not prove that the accepted norm is out of date and there is a new level of performance out there? Probably does, and if that sort of bulk of data was summarised and made available to perspective buyers, they could make up their own mind about whether they want to be part of the "revolution".

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And when that info is presented terms like 'cannot', 'blowing cases', 'chronograph is inaccurate', 'you're talking Bullshit', 'without popping primers', 'molten brass' get thrown around, so they just go quiet and continue on with what they do.

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Originally Posted by The Claw

I am certainly not adverse to trying something new out, but I also like to research that thing as much as possible before buying. If the information is viable, and supported by hard data, then why not release that data. I don't by any means mean release the secret as to what made the revolution possible, that makes no sense from a business point of view, but then neither does saying nothing at all...

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Some people do it for the enjoyment of shooting - its not always about being topdog and business

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Originally Posted by tui_man2

No comment to my post spanners?

Is this where I pack a tanty and get all this deleted?:D

Forums would be boring without it

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You havnt answered mine...

I didnt see anything needed to be commented on
Anyway, the point clearly went way over your head

Where the fuck is Homer when you need him

Doh,
James

Bwahahahaa

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Originally Posted by Spanners

You havnt answered mine...

I didnt see anything needed to be commented on
Anyway, the point clearly went way over your head

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Psi? It's around 62 to 68 depending the day.

Now you mine, if you generally think you have a safe load? Why not post it? Explain yourself with some info.
No say fired 15 rounds done xyz speed.

I burnt out a tube and are half way on the second before I put that up after getting a feel of what it can do in every situation. Now I love it its the perfect nz hunting round like the fatmax, light and packs a punch. It's no take to the range eat a pie drink a v an fire silly long strings at steel but it's what ever floats your boat:)

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Originally Posted by sneeze

R93 pole dancing?

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Can I??? That would be awesome.
Sort of like halftime entertainment.!!!

I am on nightshift at the moment so I am gunna sort a routine and nail it!!



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WELL HERE IS THE PAPRNENT CASE FOR THE 7MM WINGMANAttachment 9268

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Originally Posted by 45SOUTH

WELL HERE IS THE PAPRNENT CASE FOR THE 7MM WINGMANAttachment 9268

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!:D:cool:

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270 WSM, weird.

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Originally Posted by gimp

270 WSM, weird.

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:rolleyes:
That's just in there just one bag for me for 6.5wsm, there is a 300 on another bag and shell at front

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yep seems to be some 270 wsm and some 300... the picture is saved under "blaserbrass.jpg". isnt blaser making some queer new calibres these days? maybe necked down 300 blaser magnum brass to 7mm= wingman?

Theres a bag of .300...something in there also.

Nice loading bench by the way.

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Originally Posted by tui_man2

:rolleyes:
That's just in there just one bag for me for 6.5wsm, there is a 300 on another bag and shell at front

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U mean for me lol!!!

They can guess all they like to what the parent brass and chambering is they will neva get it lol

It's not really guessing when someone posts a big pile of bags of brass saying "This is it" and one of them clearly says .270WSM on it

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Originally Posted by gimp

It's not really guessing when someone posts a big pile of bags of brass saying "This is it" and one of them clearly says .270WSM on it

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How does a .270wsm become a case slightly longer than a 7 rem mag?

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Originally Posted by baldbob

How does a .270wsm become a case slightly longer than a 7 rem mag?

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That's why I said "weird"

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Originally Posted by baldbob

U mean for me lol!!!

They can guess all they like to what the parent brass and chambering is they will neva get it lol

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My bad lol

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Originally Posted by tui_man2

My bad lol

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Yes u r u trigger wrecking tyrant!!!

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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

yep seems to be some 270 wsm and some 300... the picture is saved under "blaserbrass.jpg". isnt blaser making some queer new calibres these days? maybe necked down 300 blaser magnum brass to 7mm= wingman?

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300 blaser magnum and 7 mm blaser magnum are both held back by the soft norma brass.

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Originally Posted by Bryan

Theres a bag of .300...something in there also.

Nice loading bench by the way.

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Yep nice bench Quentin. Very jealous, has given me a bunch of good ideas for mine though.

Maybe no as many die sets though ;)

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Originally Posted by baldbob

Yes u r u trigger wrecking tyrant!!!

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No, I told you what YOU done :p

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Yep nice bench Quentin. Very jealous, has given me a bunch of good ideas for mine though.

Maybe no as many die sets though ;)

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Yep me too. I'm going to rebuild mine soon, so thank Quentin

It is a nice bench. Plenty of dies too, jesus.

Yeap,nice bench.Why did you steal all those "Z" tokens ?:wut:

Brass is here ream the forming chamber an we will be away;)

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Hey Quentin. Where'd you get the shelving for your bench from> I might steal the idea.

Thanks

Hi I got it from Dexion otago the whole bench ant the 50mm work top cost me about $450 all up I think but I would look on trade me it would be cheaper if you have got time on your side. Its only pellet racking cut to suit

Quentin

Thanks Quentin. Will do some browsing on Trademe

There are some poor guesses here. Clearly its formed from 6br :P

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Originally Posted by horihunter

There are some poor guesses here. Clearly its formed from 6br :P

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Your right hori :D
How did you manage to get it? Lol

Pic from right to left
284 Winchester
7mm saum
7mm wingman
7mm flying wingman

An a sectioned case of the wingman original case
A Winchester case in 6.5 300wsm
An a lapua case in 243ait

:):):):)

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I have case envy

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Eeew Abe, please tell me the flying wingman does not have horrid roundy Weatherby shoulders.

Fair bit of brass up its bunghole in the Wingman but :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Eeew Abe, please tell me the flying wingman does not have horrid roundy Weatherby shoulders.

Fair bit of brass up its bunghole in the Wingman but :thumbsup:

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It don't mate i grabbed the wrong ones its was one that my forming charge just wasn't enough so still has the round shoulder :mad:

Does have alot of brass at its bunghole:D

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The wingman an flying wingman are based on the 300 blaser brass:D

Now you can all stop guessing an making assumptions:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

yep seems to be some 270 wsm and some 300... the picture is saved under "blaserbrass.jpg". isnt blaser making some queer new calibres these days? maybe necked down 300 blaser magnum brass to 7mm= wingman?

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So i was right?

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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

So i was right?

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Close but still a bit of cigar to smoke yet bro!!!
"Based"

Im gonna get a big 7 for my next rifle, man are the numbers impressive, will follow with interest. Guess i need to get saving my jew pennies :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

So i was right?

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Year mate pretty much it. That has been done before to tho, it's neck down an form

It works out like a 284 an 284 shehane I took the body taper out of it to an the flying wingman the same but with the 40 degree shoulder not 30 of the wingman

Have done the 6.5 as well but won't really continue with it due to tube life
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Can you build one of these?

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