Very interesting reading for anyone that hasn't read it. Sorry if it's been posted elsewhere
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Also a good read on the legality of collapsible stocks and minimum length
http://founz.co.nz/documents/CCF08122016_3.pdf
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Very interesting reading for anyone that hasn't read it. Sorry if it's been posted elsewhere
Attachment 60440
Also a good read on the legality of collapsible stocks and minimum length
http://founz.co.nz/documents/CCF08122016_3.pdf
Funny this should come up. I have just been over this same topic with a couple of people.
Problem is most new B applicants will do whatever the AO asks of them so as to obtain that sacred endorsement. I was dumbfounded when I heard that same bit about compliant certificates.
My safe recently passed OK, gave them the piece of paper that came with the safe. The vetting guy was happy and so was the AO. I bought the safe back in June/July but was only vetted in December. The vetting guy was more interested in how I had attached it to the floor and wall rather than anything elese.
Did they ask about burring or welding the end of the threads inside the safe? Mine did. (Safe 200 plus kgs) Because I didn't do either. I mentioned that if they had the safe open and we're wanting to take the safe, I didn't mind, they could have it - because they already have the guns.
And that I would be more pissed off that they had my guns, as if they were trying to undo the bolts, they must have the door open. He didn't really have a answer and said its all OK...... practical people down here :)
Nope, no questions like that. The vetting person is an ex-cop and a bloody good guy. A couple of interesting points. Always have the safe key on your person because when you are asked to open the safe if he sees you get the key off a hook or from somewhere he will fail you on security because he now knows where you keep the key.
my last safe check , the ex cop asked if my wife knew where the key was kept ..... threw me for a sec , ... and i said no , and i asked him on it , he said he needed to check to make sure the wife (who isnt vetted) wouldnt go nuts and shoot me , ... if she could find the keys , then find the mags then find the loaded bullets , ... good luck to her .
When I wasn getting vetted the guy asked me a similar thing, just told him that she watches the 'Wives with knives' thing on Sky a lot. He cracked up
Long time back when a friend was getting vetted they asked " how is this bolted to the floor ?"
My friend said " no bolts it weighs a tonne " " oh thats not good enough " was the reply
Friend said " you'e not listening, it weighs a tonne " "try moving it "
He passed when common sense prevailed.
When I got vetted the vetter told me of one place he went to for a renewal and the old fella had all the keys on a board in the kitchen clearly marked Garage Shed Gunsafe etc
FWIW my pistol safe is a compartment (sep lock) inside my E-cat, I've also got a sep compartment (again, locked) that holds ammo
No probs with my local vetter who passed it about two weeks ago
Same.
My cook couldn't give a rats ass either.
Key pad entry and 2 keys if the batteries die hidden at my folks place.
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Key pad for me. Keys hidden, only place/person that knows where they are, is me and a sealed letter with my will. And nobody else knows the keypad number.
Wife also doesn't care or have any interest in getting into the safe - in fact she has never asked about the code, or where the keys are.
Next time we do our vetting will be when my wife gets her license. She has no interest in my guns or hunting but she has no interest in them being taken from her either if something was to happen to me. Consider if something happened to yourself.(car accident, other fatality, etc) and realise that while the wife is dealing with all the grief and strife that is happening, that on top of that she has the police (or someone else) arrive to take the firearms to where they can be legally stored.
It also has the advantage that if I forget something (bolt ammo or something else in the cabinet) or I lend a rifle to another hunting mate (or for any other reason) I can call an ask her to get them out for me. That completely negates them bothering to ask "if my wife knew where the key was kept" as the answer would be "Damn straight she does. Her one is in there too....
Just saying.....
so , always hard to decide how someone is writing something and in what tone , but whats up with the agro ?
@Jexla
Security checks seem to be a mixed bag. Guy doing mine when I changed address didn't even realise I had a B/E endorsement until he saw inside the safe. No questions about keys
I have the same deal organised. They go to my brother to he held for my Nephew (and nieces if they are interested) Endorsed ones go to my best mate until wifey decides what to do with them.
Lots of people don't think about what happens god forbid they have an accident
@Jexla .... do you know me personally ?
My keys are with me all the time. You'd literally have to fight me for access to my safe.
all these guys @Jexla coming out with statements about their security and yet no comment from you except on my post .......is this personal ?
Most safes can be opened with a pocket knife :P
Wife has full access to safe, after all she has a firearms licence, and 1/ Because she has a couple of rifles of her own, 2/ If anything should happen to me "they" are not going to come and remove my stuff.
And same as R93 I have a reciprocal agreement with a mate. Should something happen to him I am in his will and his collection comes to me to dispose of on his wife's behalf. I would ensure she gets proper value rather than ripped off by a dealer at a time when she may not be at her best to cope.
Fark, this thread is getting morbid now, but I wonder how many others have thought it thru should something bad happen.
I had one person ask me recently if my wife knew where the keys were to the safe. I told him she didn't and he said he had told his wife following some home invasion where they wanted the wife who was at home to open the safe. He thought it was better she did than get bashed.
In two minds about it though. Then they have your wife and guns..
More importantly if wife has keys wife can count.
Hey Jexla that's a fairly big assumption on the wife not being observant of her place of living!
Like a lot of the guys here my wife doesn't know where I keep my keys and while she might have an idea what room they are kept in I would say good luck to her to find them. I'm not able to answer for any others on here but I personally have areas of my house set aside for me that she won't go in to and likewise I won't encroach on her areas- we respect each others privacy especially when it's all to do with personal space and time to yourself.