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    Grouping

    What grouping would you expect from a hunting rifle . At 200 mts and 300 and 400 ? . Talk English pls not moa 's
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    At 200 the end of a beer can
    At 300 the can itself
    At 400 two cans side by side
    Best I could come up with
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    If the world was perfect I would expect to hit clay target at those ranges (obviously a stationary one, face on)

    but would settle for all hits on an A4 sheet of paper at all those ranges

    (hows that for English)
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    1"ish at 100yards is the accepted "norm" but depends on how you hunt...a bush hobbit seldom fired much past 50 yards so 4" at 100 is more than fine.
    more important is
    how far can you CONSISTANTLY hit target area.....put out water filled 3ltr milk bottle and find out,,,,warning this can be humbling or addictive
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    Addictive, especially with some spray marker in them! tie 3 or 4 to a rope drop them over a bank and go

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    Theory of the group states the group size will increase by distance.

    If your rifle shoots 1"@ 100 m it should shoot 2" @ 200 3" @ 300 etc.
    I sometimes shoot better at 3 and 400 than I have at 100 some days.
    Buggered if I know why😆
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    That's something to work on , have only ever shot paper to 100 mtrs . Was a learning curve today didn't realise how far it can go wrong at 200 if you only zeroed at 100 . . Couldn't get to 300-400 today as was too windy . Will never sight in at 100 again . Name:  image.jpg
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    3 shots at 200 , target is tennis ball size . Those other holes are my 223 , that's grouping 44 gallon drum end on wtf !
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    Zeroing at 100 is perfectly fine, in fact preferable. What problem did you have as a result of it?
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    Is the 3 in the middle after adjustments or is that 5 shots with no adjustment?

    I would say most hunting rifles with whatever ammo is cheap would group around the sheet of a4 at 400y and half a sheet with ammo it likes maybe quarter of a sheet with tailored hand loads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Is the 3 in the middle after adjustments or is that 5 shots with no adjustment?

    I would say most hunting rifles with whatever ammo is cheap would group around the sheet of a4 at 400y and half a sheet with ammo it likes maybe quarter of a sheet with tailored hand loads.
    3 in middle after adjustments
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    That's not bad then for a 270
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    That's not bad then for a 270
    @ gimp a remmy 270 at that .
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    Zeroing at 100 is perfectly fine, in fact preferable. What problem did you have as a result of it?
    Because never going out to 200-300 . I never seen the the point in correcting a slight left or right from centre . Thinking it's only 15 mm left but getting out it gets out of hand . Seemed more than 30mm .
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    Zeroing at 100 is perfectly fine, in fact preferable. What problem did you have as a result of it?
    That would be if you're a dial twidler would it not? Personally, not being one of the former, I've always sighted in at 200m and never had any problems out to 300m with a 7mm/08 and .308 which is about as far as I'm prepared to shoot, with the odd exception. I'd do the same with a .270 if I owned one.

    I suppose it depends on the country you're usually hunting in and what cartridge you're using.
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    "Dial Twidler "
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