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    Fresh Water Amendment Bill

    I received this E mail a couple of days ago from F & G , looking at the petition they haven't feared as well as the Tahr , only 1200 odd signed it so far , should probably get behind it , else who no,s where itl end up with the current nutters in office .



    Time is running out to submit on protecting trout!

    Dear Angler,

    The campaign to protect your interests against controversial provisions in the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill is doing well thanks to you telling politicians of your opposition to the legislation as it presently stands.

    Rest assured, politicians are noticing the volume of emails they are receiving on this issue, so keep it up.

    But with time running out, it is time to step up your efforts, and make sure your fishing mates are also doing their bit to ensure trout and trout fishing are protected from the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill.

    The Bill represents a serious threat to trout.

    It could allow for the removal of trout and salmon from waterways, even if they are recognised and well regarded trout fisheries.

    It could make it easier for the sale of trout and the sale of trout fishing rights in treaty settlements.

    It reduces Fish & Game's right to be consulted as managers of trout and other sports fish.

    It reduces Fish & Game's ability to protect your interests as a licence holder and angler.

    For those of you who want to know more about the extent of the threat to trout in the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill, have a look at the legal advice provided to Fish & Game by Sir Geoffrey Palmer QC warning about the Bill's contents.

    You can read that legal advice here.

    The most important things to do now are to continue lobbying politicians and make a submission to the Parliamentary Select Committee considering the Amendment Bill.

    There is also a petition you can sign against the Bill on Parliament's website.

    The Select Committee is your chance to get meaningful changes made to the Bill.

    Rest assured, Fish & Game will be making detailed written and oral submissions to the Select Committee.

    But members of the Select Committee also need to hear from you.

    As anglers, you need to tell them of your opposition to the Bill's clauses 5, 6 and 17.

    Details of just what those clauses mean are here.

    Tell them how much you value trout fishing, the recreational and health benefits which come from trout angling and the long cultural, traditional and historic connections New Zealanders have with trout and salmon.

    And tell them of your family's connection to trout and angling and how the knowledge and skills you now use have been passed down generation to generation.

    You only have a fortnight left to tell the Select Committee you want change.

    All submissions on the Bill must be in by Thursday 25 October.

    The process is straight forward and you can make your submission on-line at this link.

    Or you can send a written submission you will need to include two copies and a covering letter. Details are here.

    And for advice on how to actually write a submission and what to say, have a look here.

    With a fortnight to go before submissions close, anglers also need to continue lobbying their MPs.

    Angling clubs in particular should be representing their members' interests by making appointments to see their local MP to tell them they oppose the Bill's anti-trout provisions.

    Remember your area may have both electorate and list MPs, so make sure you visit them all in their electorate offices.

    For details on how to contact your MP, along with more information on the Bill and advice on how to fight it, visit the Fish & Game website.

    And don't forget to sign the petition registering your opposition to the Bill and asking for it to be changed. Go here to sign the petition.

    Fish and Game is continuing to work on your behalf talking to politicians and officials to try and get the Bill changed. But individual anglers also need to step up and do their bit.

    ACT NOW THE FUTURE OF TROUT FISHING DEPENDS ON YOU!

    Fish & Game NZ

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    The above post is missing links , cant edit so just open this it has all the links .Cheers.
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    getting more like Britain every day. isn't that one of the main reasons that people came here that the wild resources where for everyone and rights and control couldn't be sold.
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    yep signed it.its a bit unbelievable that they cant eradicate rats stoats and possums with their current budget and great strategies and now they are adding tahr and now trout .would like to know what the annual spend on fishing and hunting is a year and also what percentage is from overseas hunters and fishers, maybe some figures presented to parliament and the public on loss of revenue and possible job losses might make people more aware of the hazards and costs of having green party members in positions of control over things they are fanatical about and will never have a reasoned discussion about.
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    They do realise that trout and salmon go to sea and come back again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijames View Post
    Signed.
    Far better idea than us illiterate masses writing illegible submissions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berg243 View Post
    yep signed it.its a bit unbelievable that they cant eradicate rats stoats and possums with their current budget and great strategies and now they are adding tahr and now trout .would like to know what the annual spend on fishing and hunting is a year and also what percentage is from overseas hunters and fishers, maybe some figures presented to parliament and the public on loss of revenue and possible job losses might make people more aware of the hazards and costs of having green party members in positions of control over things they are fanatical about and will never have a reasoned discussion about.
    Put that in your submission mate i did or close to that effect , sending one is easy there will be lots of ripple effects if there proposal go,s ahead , don't get to hung up on how you word it , better off sending one than not . at the end i put they are better off improving water quality & habitat vs catching our sports fish (words to that effect ) .
    get into it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by berg243 View Post
    yep signed it.its a bit unbelievable that they cant eradicate rats stoats and possums with their current budget and great strategies and now they are adding tahr and now trout .would like to know what the annual spend on fishing and hunting is a year and also what percentage is from overseas hunters and fishers, maybe some figures presented to parliament and the public on loss of revenue and possible job losses might make people more aware of the hazards and costs of having green party members in positions of control over things they are fanatical about and will never have a reasoned discussion about.
    Cawtheron Institute put 1991 value @ $250M from trout fishing alone.
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    can you imagine how fast the taupo fishery could be decimated by simply putting nets across the main spawning rivers???? if it was kept up for 4-5 years the fishery would be stuffed for years

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    Didnt even know about the petition. Have now Signed. 2558 have signed it now

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijames View Post
    Cawtheron Institute put 1991 value @ $250M from trout fishing alone.
    I recieved the same email from fish and game a few days ago and signed the petition. As has already been mentioned it was a bit concerning seeing it only had 1200 signatures.

    I also note that this bill change would make it possible for the sale of trout....
    I can't help but think that some basic economics are lost on these decision makers.

    If we netted all the trout in nz and sold them i doubt that we would receive $250 million once.

    With our current/predominantly 'catch and release' overseas client base we can receive this $250M many times.

    !!!!! Frickin crazy politics !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumberjack View Post
    2558 have signed it now
    GREAT


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    Signed. Would have been good if support for tahr was that easy.
    Last edited by Allizdog; 12-10-2018 at 07:14 PM.

 

 

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