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    Hunt help

    Hey team as per title just seeing if anyone can help. Been putting a fair bit of time into my hunting for the last 2 and a bit years and am really struggling with getting animals. Am still yet to crack a doc deer despite doing multiple trips to the kaimanawas, ureweras, kawekas, national park area. Costs are mounting up getting a bit of pressure applied for lack of return. Anyone able to help me out? Relatively fit and have great chat if you are happy with me to tag along as and always pay my way. Do not have much else to offer in return unless you are into seafood. Live in Auckland but am always travelling south to hunt on the weekend.
    Cheers john
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    Hi John,
    You will probably find most hunters like to keep their good hunting spots to themselves as they can be hard to come by. I have found it almost impossible to get onto private land accept for one time when a guy took me out and I made the most of it by shooting a nice little fellow spiker.

    I have had to stick to Doc land and have had success due to perseverance, it sounds like you are going to the right places you just need to do things a bit differently, for example spend plenty of time glassing animals with the bino's. Find a couple of clearings and just sit over looking them right up to dark and see if any animals come out, look for a sunny face during the day with plenty of native, the deer like to come out for a nibble but still like a bit of cover.

    Once you know where the animals are you can then plan your attack, I have been out the last 6 times and haven't shot anything however I have been watching some deer feeding in a clearing a bit further in so the next time I go out and now that my freezer is getting empty I am going to sit over that spot about 300 meters from them and all going well I should be bringing home some meat.

    Keep trying John and you will get them and it will give you great satisfaction knowing you have done it all by yourself
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    I have to agree with 7mm Rem Mag. Park up in a location with good country in front of you (making sure you are downwind of the area) and spend a lot of time glassing the sunny spots. A wee snooze in the sun is good for you as well! A couple of hours rest without moving around and you will be surprised what pops up. When they are lying down they can be very hard to spot so pay extra attention to any area that looks likely. There are an awful lot of animals missed by hunters who simply try to cover too much territory in a day. Animals are like people in that they don't like the cold and enjoy resting in the sun during the main part of the day.
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    Good advice here already, put in lots of leg work and you will get there, although its very tempting to pull the trigger as soon as you see something, you can learn a great deal more by observing animals undisturbed. As long as you have the wind in your face and you can stalk quietly the animals will come.
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    Pick one of the areas you mentioned you’ve been visiting. Keep going back . Learn your area well. Once you’ve shot one they will come much easier.
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    I know it can be very disheartening, all that time and effort without reward. Even though there are more deer about now (everywhere) than there have been for at least 40 years - they are no less wary and wild than they ever were. Its a mistake to think that large numbers equals easy to shoot!

    Its hard to emphasis enough about first and last light, and careful glassing, deer are masters of "just appearing", one minute nothing, then you see one then several.

    It may be old advice but its still none the less the best - spend the most money on your binos, then a good scope and finally a rifle. Hardly anyone heeds to that advice but I can tell you I've seen more game in the last 4 or 5 years I've had my Leica's (which cost a small fortune) than I did in the previous 10 years. You'll maybe find that having a fine bit of glass on you neck encourages you to stop and look, if only because they cost so much that you feel you must use them!!
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    @superdiver as @Sika Seeker said take a pic of one of the spots that you have been going too in your original op. Keep going back. Took me about the same time to get my first deer. That was out of the Kaimai rangers back in the early 90 when deer numbers were not so good. My mistake was always changing spots.
    +1 also on what @Tentman said about the binoculars and scope rifle set up. Even if your bush stalking use those bins! If your sweating your going to fast, for bush stalking walk till you find sign then slow right down look under through and around trees vines.
    Also useing bins means your not point your rifle at something you haven’t identified.
    Some light dark colour gloves helps stop hand flash as you constantly bring your bins up to your face.
    Good luck it will come as said above once you get your first it will fall into place.
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    great advice so far...... wind direction is paramount,carry and use a cig lighter to keep checking it.
    when you find fresh sign slow down till you think you are going too slow then slow down some more..3 steps,look around...3 more steps stop and look around some more..... keep at it and dont give up,when you get a chance for a shot TAKE TIME TO GET A REST AND USE IT.... I spent years hunting nice open ridges and didnt see deer..they live sleep and eat in the gullies and slips walk up ridge till you find sign or old tracks leading off then sidle around faces...when you find level deer seem to be at STAY at that height the deer will be in band 20-100mtrs high as thats where feed is best at that time of year. get out of bed early and walk into area in dark...be Johnny on the spot as day breaks
    slow down some more and use binos on any open areas...what are you looking for???? movement/colour/horizontal line/shape.....then look harder at IT and make 500% sure what you are looking at.

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    Another point I found, is rather than offer to tag along with another hunter to their spot, see if you can get a more experienced (successful) hunter to tag along with you. Getting them to see what you are doing and help you to learn what you need to do is what you want. And being able to do this where you have looked before can be a great way of seeing what you missed last time.
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    Dont despair it took me two years to get my first deer. You have already got some very god advice in the threads written so far. Pay special attention to the tread written by tentman as I know what he is talkin about. I have been on two hunting trips with him and he is always first to spot deer with his Leica. I have been on a two month hunting trip to NZ and the biggest animal I shot was a wallaby The thing is that one does not just walk in to the bush/mountains and shoot a big stag. My advice to you is have patience and eventually your hunting will pay off. In the meanwhile just enjoy the great NZ outdoors which I consider the very best i the whole world.
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    if there is sign where you are going stick to that area and learn it maybe even try a game camera where you find the most sign that will tell you what and when they are about. as far as taking over two years and no deer it took me nearly twenty years till the first deer for 2 reasons first I kept trying different areas 2nd was no binos . went with a workmate to an area I was told about with no binos didn't see anything he seen 3 .bought a set of steiner that works for my eyesight went back to same place spotted a stag first day couldn't get it but next day he was back and using binos we planned a stalk that would get us above him.funny thing was we never saw a hind and yearling just above him after a couple hours watching the stag we stalked around the ridges to above him while sitting up above him trying to figure out how to get through head high thick scrub a hind stuck her head up to see what all the mumbling was and got a round fired at her thought I missed as a head came back up 2 feet to the right a couple missed shots by both of us and it sat under a tree for some reason a 100m away another aimed shot and I thought I had my first deer after getting that one we walked back the way it had run and there was the first deer I had shot looking back to our campsite from there we where in a small clearing but had not seen them as was concentrating on the stag that just reinforced the idea of binos and don't just watch what you have seen but keep looking as if there is one there will probably be more. as for binos find what suits you as the better they fit you and your eyesight the more comfortable they are to use the more you will use them. mine where $400 have tried 3k ones a mate had couldn't use them comfortably so no good for me . if you have clearings where you go get yourself into a comfortable shooting range and try 80% sitting and 20% walking .good luck and keep trying.
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    find a area with decent sign shouldn't be hard where your going keep going back an get to know the area like the back of ur hand . invest in a trail cam it's gonna happen sooner or later mate! I know a bloke that s 3 years deep I've put him onto 3 separate deer an he's fucked them all up so ur not alone . in a certain area notorious for being hard it took me three years to bag one. iv shot 3 there this year . failing that go an shoot a free range fallow at one of the many places avalible an get the monkey off ur back then get back into th public land . my 20c anyway
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    Thanks for the info and offers guys. I will be in touch with those who have offered help. @300blk I have actually shot a few deer but not getting as much satisfaction shooting them on private land even though some of them have been bush stalked. I just want to crack them on Doc land. I may sound a bits ungrateful but I can assure you I am not. (to everyone) Been focusing on areas that are just bush so cannot sit and glass unfortunately. If any experienced hunter wants to come for a hunt let me know and we will see what we can arrange.
    Cheers John

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    hey mate I'm in a similar boat to you, also a previous JAFA except I live in Palmy now so hunt in the Ruahines a fair bit. The only difference between us is that recently I have started looking for spots where I can get up high, and glass over an entire catchment- not just one slip. Since doing this every hunt I have been on this year I have seen deer and have shot a few public land ones already this year after only getting one by fluke in the last couple of years. Give it a go, it's not as good as getting one proper public land bush stalking but it''s good to get some shit in the freezer- then when your freezer is full you can turn your attention to mastering bush stalking. I agree with you that private land deer are pretty much not deer at all

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    My two cents worth.

    In the last 18 months or so, I've been hunting areas I've never hunted before in my life, and my freezer is always in good order. To see what was happening where, I ask the question: where is the shelter from the wind and traps the sun? and has access to food and cover close by, then park myself on the opposite side in the cold/dark joyless side in a spot that gives the widest vision angle and watch all day, accepting the fact you'll shoot nothing that day (or days ). Have a printed map handy (I use Freashmaps, has 3D as well) and take compass bearings on the animals you see and mark their position on the map and note the timings. Build a picture of the daily routines, be patient doing it and never go near it while you study it. Don't go after the first animal you see if you want to future proof your new spot x. If nothing transpires, move to a new location and do it again.

    I tend to look for an east/west creek/stream/river and park it in a good spot on the south facing side. We all have our own methodologies, mine works for me, but the most important thing to do is: have a plan in the first place!

 

 

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