Thread: Hunting reds with a 30-30

Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway

What would that guy know about anything

Do you know him personally?? I don't and are relying on people on here that might know him or is it all conjecture.....??


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Originally Posted by tiroatedson

Do you know him personally?? I don't and are relying on people on here that might know him or is it all conjecture.....??

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I was just joking, sorry. I own both of his books.

Gimp is only disrepecting him because he's shy about having learnt how to shoot properly from reading it in one of James Passmore's books. He was utterly hopeless before.

Took my Marlin 336 out for target practice last weekend, open sights, mix of ammo, hitting tin cans at 50 yards and was acceptably on paper at 100 yards with open sights, using pascals mix lolli bag as the centre to aim at.

A good scope will help with light gathering but just gets in tge blody way otherwise.

My mate shot at the comonwealth games. He put 2 shots from a cold barrel and 3 from a hot barrel into a 1 1/2 inch group at 120mtres lying on a blanket. The rifle was a near new iron sighted win 94 in 3030 id just bought and couldnt hit a sheet of refill paper with at 75 yards lol.

I used them a lot and they are pure hunting rifles, they fit the best, are easiest to carry are perfectly accurate with modern ammo, and the half cock is perfect for silent stalking. They are the best offhand shooting rifle you could have, and for a bush hunter or one who generally shoots most of his deer standing up, they are purpose built tools.
People say they are not as accurate as bolt actions and no doubt that is essentially true, but I have had three now and all of them could shoot into 1.5 inches at 100 metres with their factory open sights and the same 150 grain handload. I used to favour the receiver peep sights by Lyman or Williams, but nowadays I wouldn't bother and just use the factory bead and rear sight, which are very good open sights.
The fast follow up shot is welcome too, although you rarely have to employ it. But in bush shooting you can always hit a tree or a branch you didn't see and need another shot quick. I once fired three shots in .00079 of second when I ran into four deer at 25 yards and got all excited. I only hit one of them, but that's not the rifles fault. People that heard it thought I had a semi-auto.

I would shoot out to 200 metres with the .30/30, which is about as far as you can comfortably shoot with open sights anyway, but all of my .30/30 kills have been around the 50 - 90 metres mark, and all offhand shots. No problem with killing, they died and they died right there too. 150 grain or 170 grain probably doesn't matter, but I prefer the 170 grain Hornady flat nose now, although most of the .30/30 deer have been shot with 150 grains Winchester power points, and they worked fine.

I am speaking here of the Winchester 94. And without a scope of course. The Marlin .30/30 is a pound heavier, and the lever throw is a longer arc. I have used a Marlin for one trip only, but I would rather have the Winchester probably because that's how I was brought up. The last one I had I gave to my father as a retirement present, so now I am left only with my .44/40 in a lever action. I will get another Winchester .30/30.

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I thought the marlin had a shorter throw ?
Ps , id go the xs site carlson . They realy are that good.

Levers are fast but there may be a few too many zeros after the decimal point .00079 seconds for 3 rounds works out to 227848 rounds per minute.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Levers are fast but there may be a few too many zeros after the decimal point .00079 seconds for 3 rounds works out to 227848 rounds per minute.

I didn't have a stopwatch with me at the time, so that is only an estimate. But I am sticking to it.

Race gun with a bit shorter throw , but looks like fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1BwUJ4--Qw

This is probably more real lol , but just as much fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTiQ5rwYSYs

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

I was thinking about working outryt the rounds per minute too.
I'll put up a box of piss to the first person to get 3 off in .79 of a second (with a lever gun). I want to see it though.

Going out to start practicing now, do i have to hit anything or is it rounds down the tube? Waikato will be fine

I also own copies of both books but the bastard refuses to sign them for me

He probably knows you would just sell them on Trademe for more money ten minutes later

What's this second book you talk of, I only own one.

I'd like a 94 in my safe.

Put that beer on hold! I could only manage 2.2 seconds for 3 and thats starting with one up the spout and that was after a couple of dry firing practices.
Come on guys heres a challenge