Thread: NZ Hunter

Obviously not done much hunting anywhere that gets busy. Had it happen a few times over the years, both in huts and tent camps in plain sight. Don’t get my gruts in a knot over it. Remember, always expect to see other people, positively identify your target and consider your firing zone and you won’t go far wrong. Worked for me for about 49 years now without incident.

Not in the slightest bit interested in hunting anywhere it is busy.

I know a guy who was shot by another hunter around 38 years ago and have seen first hand the issues it has caused him over the years. I’m quite happy to form my own opinion of what I find acceptable and what I don’t, and what you think is of no interest to me.

Originally Posted by Sauer

Not in the slightest bit interested in hunting anywhere it is busy.

I know a guy who was shot by another hunter around 38 years ago and have seen first hand the issues it has caused him over the years. I’m quite happy to form my own opinion of what I find acceptable and what I don’t, and what you think is of no interest to me.

Good on you. I’ve posted on here before about being on the receiving end of firearms on more than one occasion. Been lucky and survived, still carry some lead around in the body. Hasn’t put me off firearms or hunting, wary of situations and other people though. I would guess there’s more than a few on this forum that have done/survived shit where they thought ‘fuck, I got away with that’ and moved on. I don’t waste too much time worrying about past events, learn what you can from them and move on.

some of us have shot animals while can still hear mates putting in tent pegs.
some have shot animals from hut doorway
lots have shot stag in roar and then had another party anounce their presence after the shot
most will have shot animals off walking tracks
some will have been at very busy hut and a possum has turned up and been shot after warning other hut users..I know I have done so.
in may a lot of us will be firing shots 90mtrs away from other folks quite regularly for a month or three
as has been said as long as you have positive ID and good fireing zone ,you breaking no laws ,rules or risking anyones life.

DOC permit conditions state firearms cannot be discharged within 500 metres of a great walk hut and for other huts its a little ambiguous and says not with in the vicinity -quite what that means - be a lot clearer if they had stated a distance - I tend to agree with Micky Duck if a deer was 200 metres from a hut and was a safe shot I don't have a problem with that -I had way more of a problem with the clowns last roar trip who persisted in walking up and down the ridge opposite our camp continually roaring their stupid arse of and very badly at that - they shut up a number of stags that had been going

the vicinity of a track thing...makes the greenstone and caples somewhat "problimatic" as all of the river flats would be taboo...mt nimrod scenic reserve would be unhuntable,most of hook bush would be out of bounds..north opuha thats a BIG slice off the side gone....mt somers if you took say a 200 yard strip off the tracks it would leave bugger all left able to fire a shot in....
mt hut...big road up the guts,tracks around the bottom.....hope you got a couple of days or big wallet to fly out into back of block
get onto topo50 and draw a 400yard line across a walking track and see how utterly rediculas that is....and it would not make it safe if only using a shotgun and buckshot...incidentally do you know where the waterfowl 90 yards from another stand occupied by others without their permission comes from???? or why power level of a lead #BB comes in??? both combine to equal where a shotgun with birdshot pretty much stops being a leathal weapon and only has small chance of wounding ,and its a very small chance out that far.
were you to demand same with a centrefire...3km would go close,maybe 5 in some cases.... positive ID and safe background is where its at and always has been.

it was a great TV show..good on them.

Interesting that GD who experimented heaps withn the 7mm cal has gone up to the 30 cal, a 300 win mag with a 225g pill.

Originally Posted by flock

Interesting that GD who experimented heaps withn the 7mm cal has gone up to the 30 cal, a 300 win mag with a 225g pill.

Sponsorship and tikka 7mm being to slower twist would be my guess their be a 7prc with 180s next season no doubt . Cool episode

and then in the "tech talk section" raved about the prc 6.5 and 7mm.....that I found somewhat weird.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

and then in the "tech talk section" raved about the prc 6.5 and 7mm.....that I found somewhat weird.

Sell more rifles.

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Great show.
I love listening to Greg but I too giggled when I heard him mentioned the 6.5 Prc which from what I gather is a waste of powder Hornady hype.

oh no the giggle bit was the .270 or .270WSM is good medium range cartridges......I reckon for Greg to say TWOSEVENTY is like the Fonz saying sorry... I had to replay the episode over and again the season they were using factory ammunition only and he says "use the .270" LMFAO.

GD loved using the Berger 180’s in the 7mm RM which won’t gel with the H&F sponsorship (Hornady, Rab, etc) so I guess that’s why he’s gone the 300 Win Mag route. Great show

I’ve been meaning to answer a couple of the questions, finally found time sitting on the ferry to do it!

Firstly, Mountaineering, as Dalts says, you generally don’t rope up unless you are in glacier travel mode on flat terrain, or if you are putting in anchors and pitching on steep terrain. Crossing that angled snow face with a bad solar aspect, we decided safety was in speed getting across before it warmed up any more with the risk of wet slide avalanches - and you don’t want to be roped together if that happens. So long as you trust the sure footedness and headspace of your crew - safety is in speed! We probably should have explained that at the time.
Rifles wise, we are sponsored by Tikka and Sako. This season on the Show we are using an Aspire 7mm Rem mag, a Strata 300 Win mag, and a 270 Tikka T3. The Aspire is a tack driver shooting 166gn Hornady A-Tips @ 3150fps with a can, but not so good with a brake. Whereas the Strata shoots with both a can and a brake, shooting the 225gn ELD-Ms @ 2975fps. As someone said, the fact Tikka/Sako have finally updated their 30 cal rfile twist from 11” to 10” was one of the reasons for experimenting with the 300. It could do with being a little faster again, 9” would be nice. We have been seriously lobbying them to speed up their 7mm Twist rate too, and supposedly it is coming!
The 18” barreled 270 shoots the 145gn ELD-X @ 2925fps, which is a neat load capable of reasonable ranges.

We generally use the Aspire 7mm with can, as it provides the best ballistics with minimal recoil and no need for hearing protection. Especially if we have new shooters, as trying to have everyone using hearing protection around a braked rifle when you’re coaching someone is impossible. On the Mt Hooker trip it was only me, Nigel and Emil – all experienced shooters who wouldn’t need coaching, so we took the lightest rifle system as it was a big trip, which was the Strata 300 with brake.
Of course then we ran into the Fultons who had flown into the Landsborough and walked up on to the Solution Range, and we definitely should have had the Aspire with the can, as we ended up coaching Eva into taking that great old bull. The extra time it takes to get hearing protection in and out, and being sure everyone including the cameraman is aware you’re gonna shoot, cameras are rolling, probably cost us a couple of earlier chances on that bull.
So that should answer the conspiracy theorists who think it was a jacked up meeting!

The other couple we ran into, Nina and James, are NZ’s leading transalpine trampers at the moment, and if you want to see more of their fantastic adventures check out Nina’s Smugmug page, https://ninadickerhof.smugmug.com/. We share route info with them a bit, and in fact the route we took from McCullaugh Creek to the SW ridge of Mt Hooker was one of theirs, so it was such a coincidence running into them on that very route! They were on a 10 day traverse of Mt Dechen when they met up with us. We almost never see anyone on our trips in the remote hills, so as everyone has said, it certainly was unusual to run into 2 parties in the Hooker/Landsborough Wilderness Area!

And Micky D, that little 270 shoots so reliably out to 400yds or so, and its our current bush gun as well as you would have seen in the Sika episode – so def love the 270, especially if stuck with using factory ammo!

Good stuff bud. If you were running reloads I would send you twenty of my 170 grn round nose.277 Speers for Fe to Smash stags with lol. Between them and the aluminium covered 130grn silver tips I reckon I have most bases covered as don't shoot past 350 at all and seldom past 200. Keep up the great work.