Thread: SPCA call out 1080 for what it is - good on you !!

Originally Posted by Nick-D

Talking to a good friend who did their PhD in nz biodiversity and pest control she was of the opinion that the native data gathering through chorus while not ideal is pretty much the only feasible way to gather the information while having a low impact on the allready vulnerable species. It is still a good indicator though. There is of course much more accurate number management through collar tracking and cameras etc in certain cases.

Bearing in mind that most of the evidence to the contrary is 'I used to hear birds and now I don't'. Or 'I found a dead bird' must be 1080.

Simply put the data being out out by doc/epa/whoever is more objectively reliable than unsubstantiated eye witness accounts.

Not to say that people's eye witness accounts are wrong, just that it isn't a reliable way for me to form my opinion. Personally I have hunted several heavily 1080d areas and havnt seen or heard any appreciable loss of bird life after the drops.

Scientific papers themselves will often not mention the peer review as they are written then published to a scientific journal, who undertakes the review. Tracking this info down is arduous if you don't have the journal's info but it is out there.


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I’d been keen to listen with my new hearing aids, the continual chirping drives me nuts. Sitting listening to Sparrows but they don’t count?