Thread: World Record Red Deer!!!!......according to an American

I like the facebook page for Barnes projectiles and today in my news feed there is a lady who either works for them or owns Barnes that I've seen on their youtube and website videos. Apparently she has taken a "New world record free range red deer". Really? I'd say I've seen at least 20 stags in my time that would better it that have been certified.
Why do yanks have to be and have the the best of everything? Or am I just crazy and this is legitimately a new free range world record?

There is also one on YouTube about a chick who has something to do with Remington and she claimed to bow a world record red in gizzy

Got a link? I'm in the mood for a laugh! ha

I have a good idea where it was shot and if I am right, it isint free range. Unless it was let out 30 secs before shooting it. It is a pretty awesome head 45-47" in length and amazing brows and bez tines. That right side is almost perfect.
Goes a bit rough up top on the left. Dunno about it being a world record head tho.

I dont even look at or rate at Nz red deer heads that are over 330 odd that are not shot in either South Westland, Otago or inland Cantabury.
99% of the animals from outside of those areas that are over 330ish are not of original strain and are just plain bullshit presented by bullshitters imo.

Originally Posted by R93

I have a good idea where it was shot and if I am right, it isint free range. Unless it was let out 30 secs before shooting it. It is a pretty awesome head 45-47" in length and amazing brows and bez tines. That right side is almost perfect.
Goes a bit rough up top on the left. Dunno about it being a world record head tho.

That's what I was thinking, not that I recognise the area, but i highly doubt its a genuine wild deer. Really? I was thinking it would be low 40's in length although that right antler does have a good royal. At any rate it's far from a world record in my books. Americans just seem to claim everything as a world record, there must be a lot of big heads with the equal highest score ever!!

Originally Posted by R93

I have a good idea where it was shot and if I am right, it isint free range. Unless it was let out 30 secs before shooting it. It is a pretty awesome head 45-47" in length and amazing brows and bez tines. That right side is almost perfect.
Goes a bit rough up top on the left. Dunno about it being a world record head tho.

It looks a Hell of a lot like a place I know and if it is it will be free range. Just well protected and managed.

It looks about the average off the property.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

It looks a Hell of a lot like a place I know and if it is it will be free range. Just well protected and managed.

It looks about the average off the property.

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That is no average head for anyhwere. You fellas need glasses or some size perspective
359 if free range, is surely friggin unique these days. The best I have heard of for ages that come out of a true trophy area is a 347DS it come out of a river near Haast.
It had more points and was 45"ish in length.

Originally Posted by R93

That is no average head for anyhwere. You fellas need glasses or some size perspective
359 if free range, is surely friggin unique these days. The best I have heard of for ages that come out of a true trophy area is a 347DS it come out of a river near Haast.
It had more points and was 45"ish in length.

350 is the average off of this property.
I said free range not public land.
True wild bloodlines just managed properly and heavily culled of inferior animals.

An orvill trophy winner came off there a few years ago.

Most of the property has no fences at all.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

350 is the average off of this property.
I said free range not public land.
True wild bloodlines just managed properly and heavily culled of inferior animals.

An orvill trophy winner came off there a few years ago.

Most of the property has no fences at all.

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If 350 is the average off that place then they need to have a good look at themselves as to why the biggest ever (in the world too!!) is only 9 6/8 more!!!!

Personally I don't think that stag is very big.
For a start the score is SCI which optimizes the score by measuring every inch, whereas the Douglas method measures the shortest tyne and doubles it but does not score extra unpaired tynes. That woman is not very tall if you compare her to the rifle, in saying that I would probably let her score my inches if she asked.

Originally Posted by R93

I dont even look at or rate at Nz red deer heads that are over 330 odd that are not shot in either South Westland, Otago or inland Cantabury.
99% of the animals from outside of those areas that are over 330ish are not of original strain and are just plain bullshit presented by bullshitters imo.

Don't forget Gisborne. Some big heads up that way R93. I recently roughly measured a big 16 point red from that part of the world that went around 350+ DS (scored as a 14). No fences, lived free as a bird in a very large forestry block all its life. If memory serves me correctly they have Warnham Court and Windsor blood lines in this block...amazing what protection, management, a ready supply a tucker and good blood lines can produce!

Originally Posted by Nesika

What about Gisborne? Some big heads up that way R93. I recently roughly measured a big 16 point red from that part of the world that went around 350+ DS (scored as a 14). No fences, lived free as a bird in a very large forestry block all its life. If memory serves me correctly they have Warnham Court and Windsor blood lines in this block...amazing what protection, management, a ready supply a tucker and good blood lines can produce!

How many heads anywhere near that caliber prior to the 90's come out of Gisborne over 350?
Cyclone boler and the venison crash helped Gisborne out.
Banwell's books are all you need to work it out vol 1 is a good start.


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Originally Posted by R93

How many heads anywhere near that caliber prior to the 90's come out of Gisborne over 350?
Cyclone boler and the venison crash helped Gisborne out.
Banwell's books are all you need to work it out vol 1 is a good start.

FYI R93, some stags from eastern Raukumara country, livies caught 1979, not in the 350 class , but some dam good feral blood all the same, sold for breeding stags back in the day
(Photos are my old mans)


I have these sawn off antlers at home and are about 38" to the cut at the brow tine



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Originally Posted by R93

I have a good idea where it was shot and if I am right, it isint free range. Unless it was let out 30 secs before shooting it. It is a pretty awesome head 45-47" in length and amazing brows and bez tines. That right side is almost perfect.
Goes a bit rough up top on the left. Dunno about it being a world record head tho.

I dont even look at or rate at Nz red deer heads that are over 330 odd that are not shot in either South Westland, Otago or inland Cantabury.
99% of the animals from outside of those areas that are over 330ish are not of original strain and are just plain bullshit presented by bullshitters imo.

This is absolutely true. Look at her lipstick which proves it was a truly wild hunt and genuine wild stag.Just because she is a woman and her hair looks airbrushed does not detract one iota that it is a true record hunt.

Easy BH, you line up the shot, radio the guy 5km away at the gate to open it, then let rip. Free as the third vacuum cleaner attachment on But Wait There's More and other infomercials.

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