Fast twist 22-250 Nothing a 223 can do that a 250 won't do much better period. If you start reloading load up load down. The last deer I shot with a 223 was a pretty average 3yr red shot in the base of the neck at 50 - 60 mtrs, needed a finisher. Bullet was intact mushroomed against the vertebrae, which it didn't have enough power to break.
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