yes I have seen old 303 shoot better than thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
yes I have seen old 303 shoot better than thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Precision hunter 143 Eld-X 110-120m from Rem 700 onsite (estimated by 3 different people based on how may rugby fields is that) note group was shot at the end of barrel break in process, scope had short eye relief and caught me twice(was hard to refocus) maybe a week later shot 3 goats at approx 40m blew out their shoulders and felt like a stink bastard because I was wasting meat. Maybe a month after that went to chest shoot a wounded billy at 50m ( 22lr poached) hit its arse and animal escaped ( first time thats happened to me, never had a shot pull that far off).next day I lined up a target (after cleaning bore) standing/similar conditions hit target within 2 inches of bull. Glass bedded action and then retested rifle. maybe 2 MOA over 20 shots (federal 130 blue) couldnt change point of impact, so took rifle scope to gun city and they showed me that scope was tracking and shifting all over the place when I changed magnification, (hence it was thrown in the bin) all this 270-6.5 blah blah aside I just want to go hunting, I cant take a shot unless I know where it is going purely for ethical reasons. I cant develop skill without consistency. however I know from practice that the 270 is more than I need.
the crown of said 223 is corroded, silencer was obviously left on, silencer hard up on the forestock. so no realistic way of recrowning. .223 was a gift.
OK....maybe Ive been a bit harsh.....the hero comment tends to do that...
you scoped yourself using a LOUD rifle...and yo ualso own another harsh kicking rifle....not long after scoping yourself your shooting for whatever reason went to shit....and youve got what must be the countries most inaccurate .223...spells out FLINCH being a very real posibility
you have never said how well you can shoot your .45/70....... go shoot your animals under 150yards with that..... why not??? you have got it,assumably it hasnt been stuffed around with so still shoots straight... you wont damage anymore meat than with anything else,in fact you will probably damage less as big slow bullets tend to do that... from the few small animals Ive hit(wallabies the size of a 2year old goat) its more like someone has stabbed them right through with an apple corer..just a big empty hole with nothing inside it and bugger all bruising.
and while your at it..try some different ammunition in the 223...something 55 grns to begin with. for goats and fallow the .223 is pretty hard t ogo past with the 150ish yards ranges you were mentioning....and the 45/70 is just plain good fun with lesser loads in same ranges
yes there is...its called back boring.... basically you poke a fatter drill bit up its gunger and have a clean end to rifling some short distance back up the barrel..and gunsmith worth thier weight in goat shit can do it....and forestocks all over the country have been shortened by differing amounts to accomidate suppressors so worst case you spend $100 bucks to recrown and rethread 1-2" further back and cut 1-2" off end of the furniture and tidy it back up again. far better to have it accurate again and usable looking slightly naff than it looking origonalish and no good for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mroach
Now that is a loooooooong suppressor!
Thank you Micky Duck, I had all good intentions for the 270, I ran out of money and time, I lost a house and a partner over covid, I am busily resurrecting a commercial diving career that nearly went under. I can see a logical progression to sort the the rifle out but I am just tired of it all. yep the 45-70 is awesome (Marlin 1985) I can ping bricks off fence posts on a 2 count at will (standing with irons) at maybe 30-40 yards. If I was to go .223 would have to be a different rifle.
standard gunworks spartan..
ok, I will look into it.
That’s what she said ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbtkDI79izQ
As a long time .308 fan I found their results surprising. It looks like the 6.5 is maturing into a pretty decent round. Although I still think .308 performs better out of shorter barrels.
Be silly to buy anything other than a 6.5CM in a factory rifle for general purpose hunting these days
140-147gr 6.5mm bullets of the right construction at 2600-2700 fps kill things extremely well with light enough recoil and good ballistics to hit things. There's tons of ammo choices and it's as cheap as anything else. It's what I recommend any new hunter looking for a rifle to buy
Is it a 600m deer cartridge? generally no. Should most people be trying to shoot deer at 600m with anything? also no
(get a .223)
Confirmed on Fallow and red spiker. 143 ELDX on vital zone at 198 yards.
Yeah I should have been more descriptive, I meant with the bolt stop, mag change to allow you to seat the projectile further out on a 260.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
Recommended twist rate 1:8 seems to have the best data for 7prcQuote:
Originally Posted by T.FOYE
Just get a creedmoor then you don't have to muck around with bolts tops etc to load a decent bullet :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 308mate
Interesting, @gimp.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I recall you were a .260 guy at one stage ( maybe still)? Any particular reason(s) you'd recommend a Creedmoor over a .260 Rem? Factory ammo availablity?
maybe he has grown a man bun so it just sort of fits in?????
funny reading this and the 308 v 243 threads and seeing same things said differently
then chuck in the 223 on deer thread......
I dont give a flying fig what you shoot your deer with ,as long as you can cleanly kill it each n every time..hell I know guys who regularly use the 22 magnum rimfire...... not my cuppa tea,but cant argue with results.close range in spotlight on private land.
I've got a .260 still, haven't shot it since 2020, .223 works. 6.5cm didn't really exist as an option when I got the .260, I wouldn't get a .260 todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Maxx
It isn't a big deal to do with a Tikka but the problem is Tikka have stopped making a 260, I think I bought the last one in the country but ran out of time to reload/development with kids taking up my spare time so sold it to @andyanimal31 , I think he still has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
But yeah these days the creedmoor makes sense with all the factory ammo, as you say even as a bush gun they work well I've seen it first hand.
Yep still got it,
I rate it as a chambering even though I am a 6.5x55 slut.
Many years ago a good mate wanted a low recoiling rifle for his teens to use.
I couldn't get a 6 5x55 so got the 260 instead.
Before it turned up he mentioned it to some acquaintances who had never heard of it and tried to talk him out of it.
Needless to say when he went out goat shooting with them they were not happy that he was the one getting all the kills!
There were a few questions about this amazing chambering over a few beers that night.
A shame that it isn't getting continued but with factory ammo near impossible to get no surprises there
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How long ago mate? I guess that means no more sako 260?Quote:
Originally Posted by 308mate
I wish I had kept my Sako .260Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
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Buy Gimps, he doesn't use it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
6.5 CRM Gel Test for 300 yards and 600 yards. The 300 yards wound channel should be enough for any mid size deer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aQ5qSUpZmY
Add another Gel test footage of 6.5 CRM at 600 yards with ELDX ammo. Video at 8:20m showed wound channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CeNqPZijVw
