Thread: Deer Rifle 270 or 25-06

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Oh come on He is new don t take the piss just yet!

Yeah, fair play, .25 Souper would be much less obtuse.

out of these I would get a 25-06 with a suppressor, low noise , low kick, 100-117 grn projectile, good all rounder.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Oh come on He is new don t take the piss just yet!

I have noticed you are going easy on him as you have not yet suggested "neither, go the might 308!!!"

Originally Posted by mikee

I have noticed you are going easy on him as you have not yet suggested "neither, go the might 308!!!"

bugger too slow again someone beat me too it

But please don't get a Tikka there are too many of them in the NZ already!!

2506 with 117 Sierra Prohunters puts down large bodied Tahr at and past 400 quite comfortably, deer are much easier to kill - fills the criteria set.

A short barrelled 270 in a light rifle will boot, a long barrelled 2506 in a medium weight rifle will not, reverse that and the recoil will be similar, lots of variables, but a newbie would be well served by .243 to learn rifle handling and use skills.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

2506 with 117 Sierra Prohunters puts down large bodied Tahr at and past 400 quite comfortably, deer are much easier to kill - fills the criteria set.

A short barrelled 270 in a light rifle will boot, a long barrelled 2506 in a medium weight rifle will not, reverse that and the recoil will be similar, lots of variables, but a newbie would be well served by .243 to learn rifle handling and use skills.

Tahr at 400+m - really? Every time?

I have had a .25-06 for over 10 years and load my own, so have a good feel for what it can and can't do. For large deer I can think of probably 20 chamberings that are far more suitable at those ranges. Unless the barrel is at least 24", and ideally longer, I wouldn't recommend it beyond 250m.

Of the two you mention I'd pick the .270 at the drop of a hat.

If you are not set on one of the two, I'd pick neither, and .243 is a far from ideal deer chambering too.

Meant to say that my .25-06 is becoming a .284 Win shortly as I have a new 7-08 barrel for it. I used it for muntjac and roe deer in the UK, which it was superb for, but too little gun for fallow and definitely red, hence the change.

Originally Posted by Simmo

Tahr at 400+m - really? Every time?

I have had a .25-06 for over 10 years and load my own, so have a good feel for what it can and can't do. For large deer I can think of probably 20 chamberings that are far more suitable at those ranges. Unless the barrel is at least 24", and ideally longer, I wouldn't recommend it beyond 250m.

Of the two you mention I'd pick the .270 at the drop of a hat.

If you are not set on one of the two, I'd pick neither, and .243 is a far from ideal deer chambering too.

Sunshine,
Been shooting Tahr for nearly 40 yrs, bet I have a better idea than you about that, and I have used everything from .243 to 338 Lap on them, keep coming back to 2506. You just keep feelin that keyboard.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Sunshine,
Been shooting Tahr for nearly 40 yrs, bet I have a better idea than you about that, and I have used everything from .243 to 338 Lap on them, keep coming back to 2506. You just keep feelin that keyboard.

Just because you're doing it doesn't make it right - sunshine.
If you think .25-06 is the best tahr cartridge you're way wide of the mark.
And get off your high horse - you have fuck all idea what I have shot, what with and where.

Originally Posted by Simmo

Just because you're doing it doesn't make it right - sunshine.
If you think .25-06 is the best tahr cartridge you're way wide of the mark.
And get off your high horse - you have fuck all idea what I have shot, what with and where.

25-06 no good for fallow or reds that's simply crazy talk lol the calibre was pretty much made for those 2 medium size thin skinned game , look at ballistics chart & tell me how you cant get a 117 or 120 gn pill out to 400 for an effective kill Tahr are thicker skinned but not bullet proof !!

Originally Posted by Simmo

Just because you're doing it doesn't make it right - sunshine.
If you think .25-06 is the best tahr cartridge you're way wide of the mark.
And get off your high horse - you have fuck all idea what I have shot, what with and where.

You are just a retarded wee lemon lacking in comprehension skills.

Not once did I claim 2506 was/is the best cartridge for Tahr. I did however point out that I have used it forever, and other cartridges for valid comparison.

It is, however, one of my favorite cartridges. I've shot lots of Fallow with a .243, you want to complain about that choice? Well it will really rip your nighty to learn it is common here to use .223 on Fallow, goats and big reds.

You are right however, about one thing: I have "fuck all idea" about what you have shot, possibly because it is "fuck all"!!!!

Originally Posted by Simmo

Just because you're doing it doesn't make it right - sunshine.
If you think .25-06 is the best tahr cartridge you're way wide of the mark.
And get off your high horse - you have fuck all idea what I have shot, what with and where.

Go on tell us

Originally Posted by Simmo

Tahr at 400+m - really? Every time?

I have had a .25-06 for over 10 years and load my own, so have a good feel for what it can and can't do. For large deer I can think of probably 20 chamberings that are far more suitable at those ranges. Unless the barrel is at least 24", and ideally longer, I wouldn't recommend it beyond 250m.

Of the two you mention I'd pick the .270 at the drop of a hat.

If you are not set on one of the two, I'd pick neither, and .243 is a far from ideal deer chambering too.

I can concur with 257 had my 2506 20 odd years until recently it was really my only rifle , 400 meters has never been a prob , depending what projectile/powder you are using can still get or close to 1000 ftlb of energy at 4-500 yards , I sight it in 3" high at 100 so its about 3" low at 300 at 400 I can rest the x hairs on its back/ top of shoulder from memory iv only wounded 2 deer with it & 1 of those was on the run 10 meters away with my scope wound up on 7 power! , must say though I got my hands on a 3006 a few moths ago man that thing can flatten the deer shot 4 with it & none have taken a step forward after being hit last 1 was a hind last week it was on a terrible angle 200 meters away but id spooked it , I thought id pulled of a great shot the way it dropped then when I got upto it id basically hit it in the guts but the angle was rite , I can see why the calibre is so popular ...I just have to be careful what ammo I grab now !

Yeh, I as well wonder why smaller is asked about? Both longer action but then the make of the rifle makes all the difference, the tikka for instance is basically the same weight in most calibre's apart from longer barrel lengths.
These new bullet types make the 100grain bullet a dependable choice for most game within reason.
Within 250m and mainly open hunting I'd suggest however a 308 or a "7mm08".Reload the 130 grain or 120 grain TTSX Barnes bullets for no recoil but also with factory offerings a plenty...
I will buy a 25-06 one day though. They seem cool. Or should that be the 270-08 lol.

25-06 will do what u want out to 250 -300 yrds very nicely.
117 gn SST's or 120 gn Partitions and good ol Federal power shocks for under 250 yrd