Thread: Educate me on bushpigs

Originally Posted by Gibo

Yip, full blown safe queen

You or the rifle

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short suppressed tikkas are still worth very similar money if you decide you hate it

not that you will. shorties are great

If the OP wants advice on how to get a bush pig, look no further...

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I got 2995fps with 125gn Nosler ABs from my 16" Tikka using H335.

OK... Never let it be said that I remain polite when I don't need to.. you want play with words...?

You sound like a sensitive wee girl clearly irritated about the tree stand thing... the point if you were capable of getting it is that actively hunting with vinyl ear cups on is unpleasant... thats an objective truth whether you understand it or not. Whether you choose a level of discomfort or not is irrelevant to me, just don't bother telling me it doesn't exist.

My original comment was about shooting more often as you become a better hunter. Nothing to do with becoming a better shooter like you go on about. Shooting skill was assumed as a constant and wasn't at issue. Better hunters usually shoot more animals. Better hunter = more shots generally because being a better hunter generates more opportunities - simple maths. The fact that you choose to shoot less being a better hunter is irrelevant, it was a general comment and reflects a normal and average sort of reality. You come along obfuscating and completely missing the point. Try a little harder to follow along.

The next one is a cracker.. you even took the time to paste my actual words.... when I said that I never said that "ALL of the lost speed would be made up" that is entirely true. Last time I checked "most" and "optimised" do not qualify as "ALL"... but hey you can't even follow along with the general ideas expressed like noise reduction and more shots fired as you get to be a better hunter.

Given your general comprehensive difficulties, why would I take your analysis of more complex issues seriously? Anytime you can come up with some sort of relevant actual experiment I would be interested in seeing those results.... but I haven't seen any yet.

Seriously whats your problem mate? I couldn't give a toss whether you turn out to be right about the quicker powder/shorter barrel issue... its a side issue to the utility of suppressors. Losing 100fps with the same load in a 4 inch chop is inconsequential.

Originally Posted by Sidney

OK... Never let it be said that I remain polite when I don't need to.. you want play with words...?

You sound like a sensitive wee girl clearly irritated about the tree stand thing... the point if you were capable of getting it is that actively hunting with vinyl ear cups on is unpleasant... thats an objective truth whether you understand it or not. Whether you choose a level of discomfort or not is irrelevant to me, just don't bother telling me it doesn't exist.

My original comment was about shooting more often as you become a better hunter. Nothing to do with becoming a better shooter like you go on about. Shooting skill was assumed as a constant and wasn't at issue. Better hunters usually shoot more animals. Better hunter = more shots generally because being a better hunter generates more opportunities - simple maths. The fact that you choose to shoot less being a better hunter is irrelevant, it was a general comment and reflects a normal and average sort of reality. You come along obfuscating and completely missing the point. Try a little harder to follow along.

The next one is a cracker.. you even took the time to paste my actual words.... when I said that I never said that "ALL of the lost speed would be made up" that is entirely true. Last time I checked "most" and "optimised" do not qualify as "ALL"... but hey you can't even follow along with the general ideas expressed like noise reduction and more shots fired as you get to be a better hunter.

Given your general comprehensive difficulties, why would I take your analysis of more complex issues seriously? Anytime you can come up with some sort of relevant actual experiment I would be interested in seeing those results.... but I haven't seen any yet.

Seriously whats your problem mate? I couldn't give a toss whether you turn out to be right about the quicker powder/shorter barrel issue... its a side issue to the utility of suppressors. Losing 100fps with the same load in a 4 inch chop is inconsequential.

Ha ha welcome to Sydneys world.
Maybe take a breath or a step back or something. Have a think from a more detached point maybe? because you have completely misunderstood here. Your tree stand comment made me smile. It made me think of the Stuart is trip, anyone that has sat in a tree and watched whitetail would I'm sure smile at the memory. So I recounted the story, its real , I saw 2 deer but didn't shoot. Of course Iv embellished the reason for not shooting but that's just a piss take for the benefit of the bushpig crowd, a little humor. Same tone as my first post in this thread, using the word ugly three times in one sentence should be enough to indicate its a bit of fun. So I have no idea how you read that as me being irritated. Im not at all ,I rarely get heated and just dont get emotional over a trivial internet thread
I don't doubt you when you say you find elec muffs unpleasant, I take you at your word. It would be nice if you extended me the same courtesy. We have been using them for a few years now and find them very good, We can have them on for 2-3 hrs at a time twice a day and longer into the night chasing wallabies. I find them comfortable to the point I can forget Im wearing them. Same in the bush and I find the enhanced sound a positive. Some people find muffs a pain some dont but dont try and tell me what I feel when I put them on because my opinion relates to me and comes from some years of use.
So think a little about noise reduction, ignore the fact that I twice posted agreeing that supresssors will reduce noise and help reduce hearing loss, apply a little logic, do you really believe that I dont understand suppressors ? that being on a hunting shooting forum that I might even have a few or 6? that maybe you just misunderstood? Maybe?

Yes I posted a reminder of you claims. When I corrected you on the burn rate I fully expected to follow up with a discussion but your reply was belligerent and dismissive and not even a hint of inquiry , actually you used the term bullocks, which is either a typo or you've accidentally invented a new term Bulls-bollocks meaning maybe a bigger load of bollcks than normal? I like it actually, I might use it. But your reply gave me a strong indication any following discussion would be pointless. The discussion we've had since and your vitriol above has left me very comfortable with that decision.

As to what is my problem? well My wife would probably say "how much time do I have" and start with my constant piss taking among other things. Im sure you can come up with a few of your own.
So carry on with whatever you believe my earmuff comfort levels are, my levels of comprehension are and what ever ideas you think I cant follow along with, put it all on me and accept no responsibility for any misunderstandings your self, just do it knowing Im not at all irritated and my care factor is rapidly approaching zero.
Right. Dinner time.

Because Bushpigs all require shortening of the barrel can I ask a question here about shortening fluted barrels .
Is there any problems associated with shortening fluted barrels in regards to fitting over barrel suppressors ?

Ken

Originally Posted by Ground Control

Because Bushpigs all require shortening of the barrel can I ask a question here about shortening fluted barrels .
Is there any problems associated with shortening fluted barrels in regards to fitting over barrel suppressors ?

Ken

I have a fluted 223 barrel for my 93
It was 23"
I had it shortened to 18" a year or 2 ago. Lost a bit of velocity but kept accuracy.

If the suppressor has an isolator tube it wont make any difference if the suppressor is fitted correctly.

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It's important to just set up your rifle in a way that suits you rather than get a bush pig idea in your head
Find acompromise your happy with and go hunting
+/- 2 inches isn't going to matter

They’re great. When I get home I can send you the NZ Hunter articles. They’ve done a lot of research on the subject.

The only thing that will stop you from having the best bush pig in the world is the availability of cash, mines off at the moment being bedded into a carbon stock... ;-)

I've not read all of the thread so apologies if this doubles up on any content. This is what I use for the bush and is a close to perfect for that as I've ever used. Bergara .308 with the barrel shortened to just over 16" and fitted with a DPT. I usually have it wrapped from supressor to but. Being a single shot it will always be shorter in length then a bolt gun as you don't have the action length. It is quieter then any bolt gun and completely safe to carry with a round in the chamber - just cock the hammer when your ready to go. It groups an overlapping hole at 100m with a 168gr factory load. The only thing I dislike is the spur on the trigger guard for opening the action which I think I'll cut off as the action can be opened by pulling on the front of the guard itself - the spur diggs into your back when carrying slung. I wouldent fire a pop gun these days without a suppressor. I use a 1.5-6 Zeiss or a H1 4MOA Aimpoint.

Looks like the farm not the bush @bing

Originally Posted by Gibo

Looks like the farm not the bush @bing

Just Jealous mate

Hi Gibo, That was one of a small group that came out of the bush to feed on the edge, dropped it in the bush and pulled it out - down hill

Originally Posted by bing

Hi Gibo, That was one of a small group that came out of the bush to feed on the edge, dropped it in the bush and pulled it out - down hill

Just pulling ya leg mate. Nice buck. I do my share of paddock harvesting too