Thread: Leaving magazines loaded (legal issues?)

Originally Posted by Cordite

2) Bring gun with you (preferably in its case). To avoid AOS callout, explain to attendant you're forbidden from leaving it in an unattended vehicle, but your urge to go has supervened. If you get into trouble, point out that you did try quoting the law at your rectum but it only seemed to inflame matters and strengthen its resolve to let go. The judge will understand.

People shouldn't have to go through this dilemma just to use the bathroom or even get a meal on long trips - It's unrealistic and very impractical.

Why couldn't something like this be an option? If there were to be an amendment to the law for carrying firearms in vehicles this would be an easy option to be certified for unattended vehicles.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

People shouldn't have to go through this dilemma just to use the bathroom or even get a meal on long trips - It's unrealistic and very impractical.

Why couldn't something like this be an option? If there were to be an amendment to the law for carrying firearms in vehicles this would be an easy option to be certified for unattended vehicles.

Have asked 2 arms officers if I could get a safe installed in a vehicle and sighed off.... No go as vehicle can be stolen even if locked and immobiliser installed (a cat house security can get away with less )

I agree here should be an amendment to have them stored securely in a vehicle, the police vehicles have them installed.....

Originally Posted by 223nut

I agree here should be an amendment to have them stored securely in a vehicle, the police vehicles have them installed.....

Exactly.

Originally Posted by 223nut

Have asked 2 arms officers if I could get a safe installed in a vehicle and sighed off.... No go as vehicle can be stolen even if locked and immobiliser installed (a cat house security can get away with less )

I agree here should be an amendment to have them stored securely in a vehicle, the police vehicles have them installed.....

I've been told otherwise by some arms officers, though it took calling 5 different ones to get one that would sign off my vehicle if I had a safe installed and a good alarm from a reputable installer.

Originally Posted by Macca

I've been told otherwise by some arms officers, though it took calling 5 different ones to get one that would sign off my vehicle if I had a safe installed and a good alarm from a reputable installer.

Was the sign off to you in writing from your AO?

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Was the sign off to you in writing from your AO?

I never went ahead with it as the engineers quote was way higher than expected and didn't have the time to install one myself. He did however say he would sign it off, presumably on paper.

He said as long as the vehicle has an immobilizer then it can be classified as non moving or a residence.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

People shouldn't have to go through this dilemma just to use the bathroom or even get a meal on long trips - It's unrealistic and very impractical.

Why couldn't something like this be an option? If there were to be an amendment to the law for carrying firearms in vehicles this would be an easy option to be certified for unattended vehicles.

I don't give a shit if someone takes offence at me carrying a firearm in public and then calls the cops.

They are wasting cops time, and making themselves look like fools.
If I need a crap, ill be taking my rifle with me just as the law expects me to do so.

I will never do anything to jeopardize my shooting hobby/licence.
So with me the guns come. To the general public who don't like that too bad.
Even if I have to deal with some grumpy meat head who tells me to leave the gun in the car.......
Id laugh if it wound up in court.

Originally Posted by 40mm

I don't give a shit if someone takes offence at me carrying a firearm in public and then calls the cops.

They are wasting cops time, and making themselves look like fools.
If I need a crap, ill be taking my rifle with me just as the law expects me to do so.

I will never do anything to jeopardize my shooting hobby/licence.
So with me the guns come. To the general public who don't like that too bad.
Even if I have to deal with some grumpy meat head who tells me to leave the gun in the car.......
Id laugh if it wound up in court.

The law does NOT expect you to take your guns with you for a crap.

It requires that you don't leave firearms unattended in a vehicle.

There's a big difference and you are quite likely to make yourself, and by extension all shooters, look like a fucking idiot if you try to push it by taking guns where you shouldn't.

Originally Posted by systolic

The law does NOT expect you to take your guns with you for a crap.

It requires that you don't leave firearms unattended in a vehicle.

There's a big difference and you are quite likely to make yourself, and by extension all shooters, look like a fucking idiot if you try to push it by taking guns where you shouldn't.

the only thing ill be pushing is a big turd out my arse while my rifle sits beside me in its bag (not in my car like an irresponsible firearms owner)