Thread: Tikka t1X - Beretta NZ sales policy

Originally Posted by Tahr

But you have owned one, eh Carlsen, and extolled its virtues until you found that the trigger mechanism required oiling...?

I am heartened to see your ancient memory has retained such a detail. That aspect is almost true, but omits all the other things I didn't like about it, which are legion. If the chap from Beretta expresses any interest I can develop this thread hijack at great and tiresome length.

its irrational to complain that a retailer can't secure stock from an importer... you have no idea why, and frankly a supplier can supply products to whomever they choose.

Complaining about a large retailer securing bulk buying discounts is completely stupid. You not wanting to do business with H&F is your issue, but for most consumers these discounts mean most are better off...

what planet are you living on chap?

Just to throw petrol on the fire, I called my local independent shop and asked if they dealt with beretta nz as I wanted the drop and cast spacers for my shotgun. His response was that h&f are the agents and beretta won't deal with him and even parts would likely be declined so my best bet would be try h&f. I did and none in stock for over 2 months. He also said when the shop opened they knew there would be a few brands that because of agreements between agents and sporting chains they would not be able to stock/or get. Beretta appears not the only one to have done this.I also remember a few years ago I was looking at either getting something fixed or needed something that the beretta agents had. The joker in the shop screwed up his face and started to hand me the phone and said "you deal with them" I knew him well and even though he was being funny he was serious about how difficult he found it when dealing with them! Agents may have changed now but maybe not?

It's not uncommon.

I used to deal with Harvey Norman and they wanted large discounts as well as exclusive rights to products.

Large retailers have that power so it can mean the small guy misses out.
To big international companies the small guy doesn't cut it most of the time unless they're in an exclusive area with no conflicts of interest.
I'm not sure they even care what the minority thinks either... they do pretty well for now.

Hi there, I wanted to join up and set the record straight here. I am the Marketing & Digital Specialist for Beretta NZ.
Firstly, OP, what you have been told is untrue. I spent all Friday piecing together an introductory email to go out to ALL customers with details on the T1X, when it is expected into NZ, and the pricing.
The communication has not yet been finalized, and I will not go into the pricing etc but it will be sent next week.

I can only presume that this retailer attempted to get info before it was available or public, and probably perceived it the wrong way. If said shop owner had tried to call and order it or ask for pricing or delivery details, say last week, there would literally be no information that could be shared - as we have not yet taken it to market or set pricing etc.

But anyway, if this shop is a customer of ours, irrespective of if they are an "independent" or not, they will be receiving the communication with the required information prompting them to get their orders in ASAP as supply will be on a first come first served basis.

Regards
Chris Watson

Welcome ChrisW
So What you are saying is Beretta NZ will supply each and every firearm retailer in the country without prejudice, is that correct?

Originally Posted by jakewire

Welcome ChrisW
So What you are saying is Beretta NZ will supply each and every firearm retailer in the country without prejudice, is that correct?

Im saying that customers who have an account will be able to order it the same as everyone else. Obviously its not possible for "each and every firearm retailer in the country" to have a valid account, but those who do, including independents will be able to order it the same as all of our other customers.
It will not be exclusive to any big chain.

Originally Posted by ChrisW

Im saying that customers who have an account will be able to order it the same as everyone else. Obviously its not possible for "each and every firearm retailer in the country" to have a valid account, but those who do, including independents will be able to order it the same as all of our other customers.
It will not be exclusive to any big chain.

Ok, thanks Chris
That then leaves me with the question.
Can any legitimate firearms retailer in New Zealand open an account with you , if, they so choose?

Originally Posted by jakewire

Ok, thanks Chris
That then leaves me with the question.
Can any legitimate firearms retailer in New Zealand open an account with you , if, they so choose?

To be honest im not sure what the requirements are. I have nothing to do with sales or accounts.
If this line of questioning relates to any specific shop or retailer, PM me with details and I can look into it.

Originally Posted by jakewire

Ok, thanks Chris
That then leaves me with the question.
Can any legitimate firearms retailer in New Zealand open an account with you , if, they so choose?

It's not a retailers decision on who can or can't open am account... Suppliers have very valid reasons to not let every man and his dog have an account e.g. bad credit, not enough volume, irresponsible pricing etc.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

It's not a retailers decision on who can or can't open am account... Suppliers have very valid reasons to not let every man and his dog have an account e.g. bad credit, not enough volume, irresponsible pricing etc.

Yes, yes , yes PerazziSc3, let assume please that we are simply talking about a retailer of good standing but not a major chain or large shop
All I wish to know is , is there any reason that any small store not be able to open an account and sell Beretta products, like have a Tikka, Sako or two on the shelf but also have access to more if a customer wanted .
Tell me why a supplier would stop a retailer from stocking the product as long as the account was paid when it is due, regardless of how many sakos etc go out his door.?

And maybe correct me if I’m wrong, but H&F have had exclusive models from beretta NZ in the past? H&F do this on some lines, shotgun ammo springs to mind.

Not that I see anything wrong with this - wholesalers /retailers do it all the time, but just in the interests of transparency...

Oh, and Tikkas really aren’t my cup of tea at all, but very happy with my sako.

Originally Posted by 7x64

And maybe correct me if I’m wrong, but H&F have had exclusive models from beretta NZ in the past? H&F do this on some lines, shotgun ammo springs to mind.

Not that I see anything wrong with this - wholesalers /retailers do it all the time, but just in the interests of transparency...

Oh, and Tikkas really aren’t my cup of tea at all, but very happy with my sako.

The T1X is too much of a big deal to be exclusive to any one retailer.
There may be exclusive package deals with scopes etc (not saying there IS), but the actual rifle, no way.

Thanks @ChrisW for taking your time posting this info. Hopefully not the last. It would be great any new info of new products/news in the future would be appreciated by as tikka fans

Originally Posted by bigbear

Thanks @ChrisW for taking your time posting this info. Hopefully not the last. It would be great any new info of new products/news in the future would be appreciated by as tikka fans

Thanks, ill stick around and keep you guys updated on all our gear and developments.
If anyone has any questions, ill do my best to answer or share what info I am at liberty to.