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Thread: Tikka t1X - Beretta NZ sales policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisW View Post
    Ok good work everyone. I will no longer answer any questions or inform you of new products, time frames or pricing. I had some cool things to tell you all next week. But whatever. I will keep an eye here for anything said that is untrue or derogatory to our business and will take action. Thank you.
    someones taking their toys out of the sandpit and going home in a huff.what I pointed out was that I can buy a t1x in usa at a dealer not a wholesaler with the dealer still making his profit and pay import and postage and get it cheaper than a dealer here just like other things like plbs used to be $200 to $300 dollars dearer here than oz now with internet and trademe the prices are getting better and now we can buy from a nz shop at not much dearer than overseas if this offends you then so be it .people don't want to be gouged and I think most are like me would rather deal with a local business and pay a fair price. also I would have thought having more rifles sold even at a lower retail price would be good for the wholesaler more market share more brand recognition and also brand loyalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisW View Post
    Ok good work everyone. I will no longer answer any questions or inform you of new products, time frames or pricing. I had some cool things to tell you all next week. But whatever. I will keep an eye here for anything said that is untrue or derogatory to our business and will take action. Thank you.
    Could see this coming. @ChrisW gave up his own time to answer question and post information but that wasn't good enough for sum of you moaning bitches.Chris isn't getting overtime to post on here. He only works there. thats like blaming the sales man because of store hours
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    Your comment did not offend. Having to explain simple business practices over and over again in order to defend against people who have no clue how business works is what is frustrating.
    I have no clue what anyone is trying to achieve here. Really it's none of anyone's business but I had tried to be open and explain things as best I could but am just met with idiotic responses which I must answer to.

    I wanted to be here to provide good info. Not be on the defensive. I love the products as much as you guys. I feel there is so much good that could come from my presence here but its just undermined with this crap.

    This thread should be removed and we can start afresh on a positive note, talking about the things we love (guns).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisW View Post
    This thread is getting very frustrating. You have no idea. There are no such agreements in place.
    An organisation is under no obligation to supply anyone and can strategically choose whom they supply. As mentioned everyone gets the same price, and we are more than entitled to choose whom we supply.

    Maybe you should go and attempt become a Ferrari dealer and then complain when they choose not to supply you as you are just some guy trying to sell Ferrari's out of his garage and undercut everyone when there is a dealership next door.

    Now slandering a person or company with untrue remarks as is all through this thread. That is a no no.

    I joined this forum to give you guys info. Not to argue business politics with idiots.
    Note that I have not resorted to name calling, nor making allegations. I chose my wording very carefully. You may wish to read the link below that was referenced in the earlier link.

    The Southern Ophthalmologists | Commerce Commission
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    ^no thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisW View Post
    ^no thank you.
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    Note that I have not resorted to name calling, nor making allegations. I chose my wording very carefully. You may wish to read the link below that was referenced in the earlier link.

    The Southern Ophthalmologists | Commerce Commission
    That link has zero relevance to this thread. The ophthalmologists in the above example colluded to price fix, sometimes called a cartel. That is a million miles away from what ChrisW took the time to try and explain.

    It’s painfully obvious that most of you guys have zero idea what you are talking about with regards to business strategy and even less when it comes to any sort of legislation, criminal or commercial.

    ChrisW - you need to give up. Most involved in this thread lack the capacity, capability or desire to try and understand.

    Ps - I still hate tikkas ��

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    I have dealt with multi national companies when a contractor and used to be a lot cheaper than them as I charged a markup of around 30% over costs .even on one job quoted for added in the price of a new excavator $36k and $15k for a truck and a larger margin than I normally charge $216k for total job beat the big boys by $40k plus when job was recalled because they wanted more done was an extra $70k in costs alone the 2 big firms came back $11k and the other $14k under my original price so I now about how big firms price things and how all of a sudden with competition things can get cheaper and people still make profits and pay wages.i don't think anyone was personally attacking you but with internet we get to see what others pay for things and just look for things to be closer than what a lot of things are hence the rise of things like aliexpress.i don't always buy from the cheapest supplier because a lot is customer service but I do do repeat business with those who offer a combination of both.in the fact you said that they probably wouldn't supply to a small shop in the same area as a large one does seem to be a bit protectionist as seen from a consumer point of view and you have to look at it from both sides not just as a wholesaler.to say you wont tell us some good things next week is little kids stuff and a joke too as if we don't find out these things you might as well stop selling because as your potential end users if we don't know we don't buy. all people have opinions some good some bad its called life experience ,if you don't like them don't worry over them you don't need to comment if things upset you just ignore them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proudkiwi View Post
    That link has zero relevance to this thread. The ophthalmologists in the above example colluded to price fix, sometimes called a cartel. That is a million miles away from what ChrisW took the time to try and explain.

    It’s painfully obvious that most of you guys have zero idea what you are talking about with regards to business strategy and even less when it comes to any sort of legislation, criminal or commercial.

    ChrisW - you need to give up. Most involved in this thread lack the capacity, capability or desire to try and understand.

    Ps - I still hate tikkas ��
    You may wish to re-read ChrisW's post that I quoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proudkiwi View Post
    That link has zero relevance to this thread. The ophthalmologists in the above example colluded to price fix, sometimes called a cartel. That is a million miles away from what ChrisW took the time to try and explain.

    It’s painfully obvious that most of you guys have zero idea what you are talking about with regards to business strategy and even less when it comes to any sort of legislation, criminal or commercial.

    ChrisW - you need to give up. Most involved in this thread lack the capacity, capability or desire to try and understand.

    Ps - I still hate tikkas ��
    Thank you. Noted. I am giving up
    To end this discussion. We can SUGGEST an RRP only, and that's it. Some want to make more, or less, and adjust their price and compete accordingly.
    There are 120+ retailers across the country including both chains and independents who are all free to decide their own pricing to the end user. A quick look online at the first 3 websites I checked provided 3 different prices on the same thing. Competition is alive.
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    Ok
    What is going to happen here is , I will lock this thread, but not delete, it will be available for viewing.
    It will be locked as the OP has his answer.
    Chris has come in and tried to answer some increasingly difficult questions pertaining to policy which he has no control over.

    Chris has assured me he will be available to answer questions re Beretta products to the best of his knowledge and to help with quality issues that our members have been unable to have resolved elsewhere

    Please treat Chris with the respect he deserves and be patient and understand he cannot be on here 24/7
    Start another thread re Beretta NZ.
    Regards.
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