Once again this is a young bull and as it ages the tines will change, I have seen pictures of Bulls shot on this property with dagger points as long as my forearm and double dagger. The treys in this area are always shorter than others I have seen even on older 50 inch bulls ,as you can see even though it is young it is starting to show the throwback of the RM Elk and not clustering of the tops like the R Elk.
You need to have a read up of the distributation of Roosevelt Elk put out by Environment Canada, I think they would know more than you or I.
Rockys are not native to the Pacific coast, they are introduced. Given time the Roos will be moving back through their original range - they are adapted to it. Considering the time from when Rockys were introduced into Washington and other areas along the coastal states in the US it is highly probable that there will now be hybrids. If there are bulls with double daggers on the same property that is an almost certain prooof of Roo blood as Double daggers are very rare in Rockys. First photo is a bull of mine as a two year old. Second photo, same bull at nine. This bull has some Fiordland blood and shows the double dagger form but modified with some Red blood in him too.
Last edited by Moa Hunter; 20-09-2021 at 09:58 AM.
This discussion is going nowhere, you have your perceived ideas, I and my son will go with the facts and information the Canada government put out regarding the areas these elk live in, as it stands they are RM Elk in this area with about zero chance of hybridisation.
If you want a Roosvelt draw a LE Tag for Vancouver Island.
Wow lots of timber there!!
I did not want to argue about your sons bull and appologise if I have come across that way. Because I farm Elk I and have worked with them in the US and Alberta I have a genuine interest in them. Your Sons recent bull has a very unusual head to my eye and that is what pricked my interest. As well, the body is unusual for a Rocky.
Back to the head, the right antler esp actually reminds me of Manitoban elk blood. The most obvious non Rocky form is the Dagger has some bumps and is flattened.
What area is your son hunting in BC - nearest town ?
Jesus what a big animal.
Even quartering it would be too hravy for mu fucked knees and back.
Love to see a pic of the back straps and the weight
[QUOTE=Moa Hunter;1225001]I did not want to argue about your sons bull and appologise if I have come across that way. Because I farm Elk I and have worked with them in the US and Alberta I have a genuine interest in them. Your Sons recent bull has a very unusual head to my eye and that is what pricked my interest. As well, the body is unusual for a Rocky.
Back to the head, the right antler esp actually reminds me of Manitoban elk blood. The most obvious non Rocky form is the Dagger has some bumps and is flattened.
What area is your son hunting in BC - nearest town ?[/QUOTE
Thanks for that, I can see by your farm animals you have a interest in them. That is one reason my son won't post stuff as a rule on forums as sometimes people get a bit carried away. Anyway when I get my computer back from the shop I can post pics of other Bulls shot on the property, come to think of it there is apicture on this I pad I will post.
The area is Princeton a couple of hours north of the US border.
The picture of this bull was shot by the sons then neighbour on the same property but about 10 kms from the spot the son shot his. I have on my computer a picture of a nice bull about 50 inch long shot off the same field as the sons , and it from memory has the same colouration and had been wallowing probably in the same wallow. I will post when I can.
Note the daggers on this bull aren't flattened so maybe it was just the way his bull grew this year.
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Being on a ranch they picked the animal up with a tractor then skinned and quartered it before going in chiller. He has the meat back now and filled his freezer, it went 560 pounds on the hook, they still work in pounds etc in a lot of things. Not sure but you could add another third onto that for the skin, guts hocks ,head etc so live weight about 850 pounds maybe?
Very big heads, it was a god read also.
This is another bull taken on the same property by son old neighbours son in law, that's a very nice bull.
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