Thread: 2016 Hilux

Wanting to upgrade my old Lux in a year or so but cant decide if the current model will be better than the new one. I am not a mechanic but understand the new model will be 2.5-2.7l diesel instead of the current 3ltr, to comply with the Euro emissions regs.
This smaller engine is also supposed to produce more power than the current one, which means to me they are screaming the shit out of a smaller engine to get better results?
Apart from shape and engine, the current model has all the same fixtures I like.

Hoping @cambo can shed some light on the new one.

A new current model (2014-15) truck should work out a bit cheaper after the new one is released as well I hope.


If this is the new look I am leaning more towards the current model. Looks to be the 2WD model, but meh!

Don't get hung up on engine size.
Its irrelevant, what matters is bearing journal area relative to thrust.
Simply better technology meaning more power from less and more reliably.
High output small diesels have been around for years in Europe.
We haven't been able to use them due to our high sulfur content in our fuel which is slowly improving.
when you walk behind any modern diesel you can smell the sulfur but my old cruiser just smells like burnt diesel.
Just being burnt so much more efficiently.

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That red one would suit a blaser owner

I say that 2015 concept looks rude and personally I'm a little bit wary of small engines being pushed hard, especially if you using them for towing decent loads all the time.

I'm probably over thinking things, but how can a small engine working hard be as reliable as a big engine chugging away?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

when you walk behind any modern diesel you can smell the sulfur but my old cruiser just smells like burnt diesel.

But unburnt diesel smells so good!

Originally Posted by Toby

That red one would suit a blaser owner

Whats the matter Toby? Did you miss your Elite Blaser club membership payment again?

The blue one looks good. I guess it depends what you want to use it for?

I'm sure it wont be seen up south island rivers (haha maybe at the bottom & updside down) but I'm sure there will be plenty at the boat ramp with a Haines or Stabi in tow.

Originally Posted by JoshC

I say that 2015 concept looks rude and personally I'm a little bit wary of small engines being pushed hard, especially if you using them for towing decent loads all the time.

I'm probably over thinking things, but how can a small engine working hard be as reliable as a big engine chugging away?

I am probably ignorant to the concept and of the same mindset as you, my truck will be doing a lot of long distance towing. I am a bit wary.

Originally Posted by Timmay

The blue one looks good. I guess it depends what you want to use it for?

I'm sure it wont be seen up south island rivers (haha maybe at the bottom & updside down) but I'm sure there will be plenty at the boat ramp with a Haines or Stabi in tow.

I will be a bit fussy for about a year. Once it gets dirty and a few gorse n scrub scratches on it, it will go everywhere. Its just a tool after all

Originally Posted by R93

it will go everywhere. :

Enjoy those repair bills lol

Originally Posted by Timmay

Enjoy those repair bills lol

If they are similar to ones I have had for the last 25 years I will be happy

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Don't get hung up on engine size.
Its irrelevant, what matters is bearing journal area relative to thrust.
Simply better technology meaning more power from less and more reliably.
High output small diesels have been around for years in Europe.
We haven't been able to use them due to our high sulfur content in our fuel which is slowly improving.
when you walk behind any modern diesel you can smell the sulfur but my old cruiser just smells like burnt diesel.
Just being burnt so much more efficiently.

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Sorry Cam, I just wanted to politely point out that NZ actually has some of the cleanest diesel available internationally. Specifically that the sulphur content was reduced from 50PPM to 10PPM since January 2009 which makes it Euro V compliant as Ultra-low Sulphur Content.

Source:

Consumers to get cleaner petrol and diesel | Scoop News

Ultra-low-sulfur diesel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

which they had to do so we could import new technology diesels.
was the cause of lots of leaking injector pumps in nzs old fleet.

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Originally Posted by JoshC

I'm probably over thinking things, but how can a small engine working hard be as reliable as a big engine chugging away?

because that big engine chugging away at full throttle everywhere is only using half its fuel creating high exhaust temps cracking heads and all the carbon that is left is wearing the Fuck out of everything and clogging piston rings.
And most probably has smaller/Shitter bearings than the little modern motor.

Wasn't that long ago the average car engine was 10hp and needed a valve grind every ten thousand km

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Ok thanks. I'll still stick with my landcruisers tho I think. Haha