My 308 FTR Rifle after I have cleaned to remove all carbon / copper the first shot is low and the second wont group also if I were to include in the group it would be about a 2 inch group at 100, but after that it always groups nicely mostly around 1/4 inch, my SAUM is the same where it needs from totally clean, a fouler shot before it groups nice.
My F-Class Rifle with a TF barrel, if you clean everything, it takes around 9-12 shots before I will give a consistent tight group
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