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Thread: Anti-1080 protester has firearms licence revoked after delivering threatening letter

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    It is for the courts to decide of course and everything we say here is purely conjecture including this.....

    The feeling I get is that this has been put on him because he was being a pain in the councils arse. And that they know it wont stick but it will cost him a lot of time and money to defend his innocence while of course having the inconvenience of not having a FAL and all the media attention discredits him further regardless of the outcome.
    Meanwhile we the taxpayer pay for the ensuing debarkle.

    If he is found not at fault and on the evidence we have been provided he should be I sincerely hope those pressing charges are forced to pay his legal costs and compensation from their pockets not the public purse.
    What evidence has been provided? Why should anything be provided to anyone other than the people directly involved?

    Or should the guy's licence be given back, or not, on the basis of media reports and the opinions of those, including me, that know fuck-all about the case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    What evidence has been provided? Why should anything be provided to anyone other than the people directly involved?

    Or should the guy's licence be given back, or not, on the basis of media reports and the opinions of those, including me, that know fuck-all about the case?
    That was exactly my point, go back and read my post again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    That was exactly my point, go back and read my post again.
    I read your post.

    My post is directed at anyone who makes their decisions based on conjecture rather than facts.






    And your 'feeling' that his licence was taken for being a pain the the council's arse is a wee bit of a stretch (I feel).
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    I read your post.

    My post is directed at anyone who makes their decisions based on conjecture rather than facts.

    I have not made any decisions and openly stated my post and all the others are nothing more than conjecture...you have trouble with reading and comprehension?






    And your 'feeling' that his licence was taken for being a pain the the council's arse is a wee bit of a stretch (I feel).
    As I said...on the evidence we have been provided(eg none, a shitty stuff article) that is the feeling I get.
    Stuff is wrong and or inaccurate more often than it is factual generally which is why I made the comment "on the evidence provided"
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    What evidence has been provided? Why should anything be provided to anyone other than the people directly involved?

    Or should the guy's licence be given back, or not, on the basis of media reports and the opinions of those, including me, that know fuck-all about the case?

    @systolic

    Don't totally disagree with you, but knowing a little does not equate to knowing f...-all.

    It's part of a democracy that things get published, with varying accuracy and completeness, and people make up their minds as far as they can based on that. This puts a restraint on everyone, to behave better.

    And no, no-one says he should have his license back, that is going to be decided by the court now.

    The heat is on the police's decision, and we are all now looking to what happens in court. It is also helpful that we now watch the courts and have their actions reported on - this is also an element of public accountability resulting in judges being less likely to show deference and to stick to law and facts - we are all human, and our true character is what we are like when no-one is watching - that's why it's better that everyone is watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
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    Now, be thou nice to poor @veitnamcam, and no more foul speech, forsooth... so as to verily preserve thy gonne licence.

    Sigh... why cannot we just love one another, sing Kumbayah and all?
    Its ok @Cordite he is clearly so deep in the legal system he forgot how to read kiwi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    @systolic

    Now, be thou nice to poor @veitnamcam, and no more foul speech, forsooth... so as to verily preserve thy gonne licence.

    Sigh... why cannot we just love one another, sing Kumbayah and all?
    ....Cause we're not a bunch of feckin hippies? Anyway, I cant remember the words.

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    Hard not to have feelings about it either considering this year is clocking out so far with tahrmageddon, Cunter's, 1080 bullshit, police ultra-vires policy, licensing issues, anti semi-auto bullshit, importing issues, FAL holder's under scrutiny, creating division between the shooting community, biased unfair reporting by the mainstream media on firearms and DELIBERATE spreading of false information - Did i mention police ultra-vires policy already?

    2.5 months to go, stand fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    Hard not to have feelings about it either considering this year is clocking out so far with tahrmageddon, Cunter's, 1080 bullshit, police ultra-vires policy, licensing issues, anti semi-auto bullshit, importing issues, FAL holder's under scrutiny, creating division between the shooting community, biased unfair reporting by the mainstream media on firearms and DELIBERATE spreading of false information - Did i mention police ultra-vires policy already?

    2.5 months to go, stand fast.
    2,5 months to go till what?
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    @veitnamcam till the end of the year. Considering the year so far... I needed a rant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch View Post
    @veitnamcam till the end of the year. Considering the year so far... I needed a rant.
    Maybe we need a rant thread where people can post in caps and nobody will take offence.
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    Didn't anyone listen to the totally appropriate link I posted 'Know your rights' by the Clash? ( he asks disappointedly) Anyway to quote from my teenage idols - " you have the right to free speech as long as you are not dumb enough to actually try it"

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    Ido know for a fact there is a very complex DOC Vs anti 1080 courtcase in the pipeline in the greymouth court .the day of my proceedeings 1/10/2018 it was mentioned in the morning admin session ,and also my cousoin and his wife were in court to support the two anti1080 guys who apparently were being done by DOC.
    DOC also had some weird legal counsel setup with one lady supervising??the other lawyer??who told the judge hes rated grade 3 excellent....
    ?this has come about because of courts being sick of assorted Govt dept legal beagles so this bloke told the judge.
    Mel Aitken aint exactly the Rose ofTralee in my eyes -Iwas privvy to an incident where IMHO I she adopted a pretty flexi attitude in regards to a retired coppers request which did not turn out well.

 

 

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