Thread: The anti gun lobby

Originally Posted by 308

Gosh Sidney, I bet you get a lot of dates

Are you on here looking for dates?

While not being associated with the NSA.... they have been the most effective of any groups at requiring accountability..

Whether you choose to support them in that approach is personal choice, but bang for buck not a bad deal from past performance...

I see a huge lack of big picture understanding..... a fragmented, uninformed, loosely associated bunch of people whose only commonality is that we happen to enjoy firearm recreation in one form or another...

We have the "nothings happening and you got nothing to worry about bunch." We have the "its just a privilege anyway" bunch. We have the "make concessions to keep the police happy and they will look after us bunch" and we have the 'keep your head down and don't draw attention to us bunch." We also have the "it doesn't directly affect me, cause I don't like MSSAs anyway" bunch.

You probably should be in the

"really pissed off because the police are deliberately acting outside the law, and getting away with it if we don't do something about it bunch....."

and the "why are the police actively promoting laws that discriminate against law abiding citizens bunch"

Your choice of how you might respond to that big picture reality.... but I would suggest that you don't have to become a member of the NSA to support the work that they do.. You have a perfect opportunity to maintain your elitist non radical persona, while getting others do the dirty work for you..

Sidney, tell me something. Is this "if you don't agree with my views you must obviously be mentally deficient or challenged in the intellectual capacity department" something they teach to all 1st and 2nd year law students down in Christchurch ?

Both you and tricky Dicky seem to have an almost mirror image approach when it comes to debating. Maybe you had the same professor ?

LLB is 4 years right ? Hopefully you guys will be taught a different technique in 4th year...

oh man I had something for this

Originally Posted by gimp

Classic.

Originally Posted by gimp

aw cmon, we can't get first years to even say boo... u only get really cranky after the next few....

Originally Posted by ebf

Sidney, tell me something. Is this "if you don't agree with my views you must obviously be mentally deficient or challenged in the intellectual capacity department" something they teach to all 1st and 2nd year law students down in Christchurch ?

Both you and tricky Dicky seem to have an almost mirror image approach when it comes to debating. Maybe you had the same professor ?

LLB is 4 years right ? Hopefully you guys will be taught a different technique in 4th year...

Nope nothing to do with being at law school for me... maybe its just that I am a cranky old fart who get tired of BS....

But hey, lets deflect from the issues again....

Ain't that life!

I would happily support Colfo if they like did something other than just gas bagging and engaged with shooters

Originally Posted by Beavis

I would happily support Colfo if they like did something other than just gas bagging and engaged with shooters

They do very good work at high level,they are just shit at making everyone who pays $ or who could pay $ to them understand what they do.

As I see it in NZ, colfo work on getting our perspective across on the world stage(who else does this?? All the talk about un crap on forums shows it's important) and NSA draws a line In the sand in NZ.

I think both orgs could improve a LOT, and have both made bad mistakes but if we want to be able to shoot anything-be it paper,or flesh with firearms of any sort we need the work both do.

Remember folks, if you value it-fight for it.
With gun stuff we ate lucky that fighting can be as easy as giving the cost of a pack of ammo every so often.

I'm very happy to pay less than the cost of a pack of .22 ammo every monthly pay to both orgs to be able to keep doing what I do-hell the work colfo has done probably has saved me a lot more than that amount of $!!

They are shooters themselves.

regards

They are shooters themselves.

regards

From a COLFO position paper:

COLFO believes that control of firearms should rest with the Police, not with Governments. The Police have a record of integrity and expertise in the administration of firearms controls and COLFO believes that this situation should continue.

lol, no thanks

Originally Posted by Beavis

From a COLFO position paper:

COLFO believes that control of firearms should rest with the Police, not with Governments. The Police have a record of integrity and expertise in the administration of firearms controls and COLFO believes that this situation should continue.

lol, no thanks

COLFO is correct IMHO, the Pollies will fly which ever way the wind blows, they are far worse than the police. At least with the police we can always go to court, to get points "clarified" not so with pollies they will change the law.