Thread: Owing an A-cat AR-15 + a bolt action rifle with 'MSSA' features

This may tie in with the thread quite well...

Gunsnz.com are stipulating you're not committing an offense, but how well they know the law I don't know?

Troy Defense Sporting Rifle 5.56 NATO Pump-Action

Scroll down to the bit highlighted in red - Where someone possess's an acat semi AR & this, that's where it gets tricky...

Also to add to this, can someone tell me the legal magazine capacity limit for non-semi's, pumps, bolts?? Are 30 rounder's legit??

Regards
Sas

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

This may tie in with the thread quite well...

Gunsnz.com are stipulating you're not committing an offense, but how well they know the law I don't know?

Troy Defense Sporting Rifle 5.56 NATO Pump-Action

Scroll down to the bit highlighted in red - Where someone possess's an acat semi AR & this, that's where it gets tricky...

Also to add to this, can someone tell me the legal magazine capacity limit for non-semi's, pumps, bolts?? Are 30 rounder's legit??

Regards
Sas

Thanks Sas, I'll take a look at that.

Re magazine capacity for non semi-automatic firearms, there is no limit whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

Also to add to this, can someone tell me the legal magazine capacity limit for non-semi's, pumps, bolts?? Are 30 rounder's legit??

There isn't one. You can use 100 round drum mags if you want.

Originally Posted by Banana

There isn't one. You can use 100 round drum mags if you want.

Haha and here I was thinking it has been 10 rounds this whole time because years ago I was told this from a guy at my local sporting shop...

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

This may tie in with the thread quite well...

Gunsnz.com are stipulating you're not committing an offense, but how well they know the law I don't know?

Troy Defense Sporting Rifle 5.56 NATO Pump-Action

Scroll down to the bit highlighted in red - Where someone possess's an acat semi AR & this, that's where it gets tricky...

Also to add to this, can someone tell me the legal magazine capacity limit for non-semi's, pumps, bolts?? Are 30 rounder's legit??

Regards
Sas

That Troy pump action is pretty cool. Nice way to own an AR with its cosmetic features intact.

Originally Posted by Dannz

That Troy pump action is pretty cool. Nice way to own an AR with its cosmetic features intact.

Yeah, I'd be keen to try one out in the new year. Some good reviews on youtube about it, very cool.

Originally Posted by Dannz

That Troy pump action is pretty cool. Nice way to own an AR with its cosmetic features intact.

Except removing the useful function. It's a lame barbie doll dress up

Originally Posted by gimp

Except removing the useful function. It's a lame barbie doll dress up

30 round mags, pistol grip, and adjustable stock are useful.

Originally Posted by Dannz

30 round mags, pistol grip, and adjustable stock are useful.

Sure are = E Cat.

Originally Posted by Nibblet

Sure are = E Cat.

Not on a pump action.

Originally Posted by Nibblet

Sure are = E Cat.

Im not sure what you mean here but, the law specifically says semi-auto AND these features make it a MSSA. If it isnt semi-auto then there is no AND and it isnt an MSSA. Otherwise Im in deep poo as my 3 No4s have MSSA features.

Originally Posted by steven

Im not sure what you mean here but, the law specifically says semi-auto AND these features make it a MSSA. If it isnt semi-auto then there is no AND and it isnt an MSSA. Otherwise Im in deep poo as my 3 No4s have MSSA features.

You don't have anything to worry about. If it's not semi-automatic, then MSSA restrictions don't apply. High capacity magazines, pistol grips, flash suppressors, adjustable/folding stocks are all permissible on a-cat for pump action and bolt action firearms.

Originally Posted by Dannz

That Troy pump action is pretty cool. Nice way to own an AR with its cosmetic features intact.

Buy an airsoft if just the way it looks is the appealing feature

As to original post, the burden of proof is on the firearms owner that the high capacity mag wouldn't ever be used on the A car firearm. And no doubt they've heard very excuse under the sun.

Originally Posted by Kscott

Buy an airsoft if just the way it looks is the appealing feature

As to original post, the burden of proof is on the firearms owner that the high capacity mag wouldn't ever be used on the A car firearm. And no doubt they've heard very excuse under the sun.

Yup. The cost of defending your stance would well outweigh the cost of setting yourself up for an E-cat. The uses for a hi cap mag in anything other than a semi would be few.

Originally Posted by Kscott

Buy an airsoft if just the way it looks is the appealing feature

As to original post, the burden of proof is on the firearms owner that the high capacity mag wouldn't ever be used on the A car firearm. And no doubt they've heard very excuse under the sun.

Ok, so cosmetic wasn't the right word. Pistol grip, high capacity mag, and adjustable stock have clear functional value.