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Thread: Should movie stars be allowed to outsource personal responsibility?

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    Sounds a bit like Bill Clinton.

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    That was what I was thinking too. Western film so should be revolvers so how down a revolver with the hammer down suddenly fire. Will be very easy for the authorities to check to see if the gun can cock it's own hammer and then discharge without the trigger being pulled. Sounds like he's trying to dodge any blame.

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    It was a western film so I assume it was a single action in which case he'd have to pull the hammer back first. Hard to do accidentally

    Big mother of an assumption though

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    Quote..”Yet all this attention is happening because of Baldwins 'political views' according to his brother. Could it be because his personal laziness cost a person's life? I'm thinking that's actually it “

    Bingo!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three O'Three View Post
    To my understanding prop guns are supposed to be blank firing guns. Why was he handed a live firing gun?
    In fact many firearms used for movie productions are real,live firearms......just loaded with blank ammunition instead of live rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi-adam View Post
    Not a fan of Baldwin either, but as much as a lot of people are suggesting he is to blame, here is another way to look at it.

    I don't know what the rules / laws are in the US.
    However, if it had happened in NZ, the first think I would be asking is, was he licensed?
    It has been stated, he is an anti-gun advocate, so for the sake of this argument, lets assume he wasn't licensed.

    In NZ, you are allowed to use a firearm unlicensed if you have a licensed person with you. The licensed person is responsible for anything you do with that firearm.
    The rules here are of no consequence as it was not here.....it was over there.Where you have essentially 50 different sets of laws depending what state you happen to be in at the time.If it was in the SouthWest then likely no license of any sort was required for anyone on the set,as the laws are generally very gun-friendly in that part of the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerman View Post
    That was what I was thinking too. Western film so should be revolvers so how down a revolver with the hammer down suddenly fire. Will be very easy for the authorities to check to see if the gun can cock it's own hammer and then discharge without the trigger being pulled. Sounds like he's trying to dodge any blame.
    That is EXACTLY what he is now saying "I didn't pull the trigger, it just went off".

    What's not surprising is none of the MSM seems to be openly calling that bullshit. Instead they are praising his latest emotional interview for it's honesty.

    He's fucked. Probably not criminally fucked but civil litigation wise he is going to get gang banged.

    Can't say I will shed a tear. Except for the young kid now motherless.
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    Call me crazy, but it is looking more and more like intentional homicide by Baldwin from what I can see. The also scene never required a gun to be pointed at anyone or shot in the first place.
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    https://youtu.be/bbTJtme0p8A

    It gets to the subject at hand at 4:20.
    Last edited by Allizdog; 03-12-2021 at 05:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allizdog View Post
    Never knew about this channel, videos seem good. Will watch. Also Kyle did nothing wrong.
    The Baldwin stuff starts at 4 mins 20 seconds if people want to skip the Kyle memes.
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    The hypocrisy, stupidity and double standards of the media never fails to surprise me.

    In the on going saga of the shooting by Alec Baldwin we have this line in the Herald from the Associated Press

    a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin killed a cinematographer
    Nowhere ever have I seen the media blame the weapon for killing someone, sure they demonize certain types of firearms but here they really seem to be trying to deflect blame away from one of their celebrity darlings. It’s almost as if the media is trying to influence the narrative rather than report on it. Who’d have thunked it!

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...IZSSFT26M33M4/

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    Quote Originally Posted by imaca View Post


    It’s almost as if the media is trying to influence the narrative rather than report on it. Who’d have thunked it!
    if only american media had the credibility the NZ media has..................
    baldwin and his supporters want us to believe he is a victim ......of all the things he is , victim and stupid are 2 things he is not . he shot and killed 1 person and injured another.....it was not self defence at best it was involuntary manslaughter....but hey its america it may get to trial in 2023 or 2024 the lawyers will keep the gravy train rolling as long as they can
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    I see the armourer is now suing the supplier of the ammo, for supposedly supply live rounds along with the blanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerman View Post
    I see the armourer is now suing the supplier of the ammo, for supposedly supply live rounds along with the blanks.


    So they just loaded them and didn't check the pointy ends? I am pretty sure the pointy ends look different. But I guess if you can outsource liability, why wouldn't you.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...th/9193268002/

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    Theres no way its intentional homicide i reckon.
    But thumbing a hammer on a faulty gun whilst knowing it was faulty. Its extreme negligence. Going around misdirecting the narrative by stating he didnt pull the trigger.. that's perverting the cause of justice i feel. So is organising sympathetic interviews so he can platform his defence by media. Its discusting to watch. I have to admit he is an excellent actor and this is his award winning performance
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    Quote: that's perverting the cause of justice

    …. Something that Baldwin has done for years……
    It's not the mountain we conquer,but ourselves.....Sir Edmund Hillary

 

 

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