Thread: suppressor failure

The DPT/Atec/Roedale style with screw together baffles machined from solid aluminium seem to be about an order of magnitude less likely to fail than the ones with baffles stuffed in a tube. Yes they'll wear out faster than steel but who cares, they're a cheap wear part.

Originally Posted by gimp

Yes they'll wear out faster than steel but who cares, they're a cheap wear part.

Maybe for you. But for me if they don't do at least two rifles they are crap. I don't think 16-18000 rounds is asking to much. They are getting close to the cost of a rifle themselves.
Atec is definitely louder than a Waitaki.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Maybe for you. But for me if they don't do at least two rifles they are crap. I don't think 16-18000 rounds is asking to much. They are getting close to the cost of a rifle themselves.
Atec is definitely louder than a Waitaki.

Waitaki quietness is irrelevant because at 700 grams it weighs over 3 times as much and it's got no place in my life

Originally Posted by gimp

Waitaki quietness is irrelevant because at 700 grams it weighs over 3 times as much and it's got no place in my life

Mine weighed 640.
And the quietness isn't irrelevant , because, noise supressor = Quietness.

Why do you even bother with a can @gimp ? Only worthwhile if you are putting a lot down range? If you moan about 400 grams well fuck, why bother???

Originally Posted by craigc

Wirehunt.

The manufacturer is very important. Ask yourself this question; if Ford recalls a model because of an electronic fault does it involve any Holden cars? ;-)

Those DPT cans are getting light, ever heard of them failing? I haven't.

But it will probably involve a Mazda.

anything more than approx 300 grams is too heavy to be practical for what I want, so therefore if it weighs more than that, how quiet it is is irrelevant


and w/r/t "640 grams", I never specified what it weighed more than 3x more than....

Anything man made can have flaws in it
Is there any major damage to the rifle

The really light suppressors get rid of some noise but they are still in the dB range that damages hearing.
If it doesn't drop the dB range enough, you are just carrying weight for no purpose other than looks.

Originally Posted by jim160

The really light suppressors get rid of some noise but they are still in the dB range that damages hearing.
If it doesn't drop the dB range enough, you are just carrying weight for no purpose other than looks.

I just can't agree with that, even though I can see where you are coming from.

Hearing damage is not a on or off thing so even if it's in the damage zone it's still better to be lower down in it.
If you're deciding to use muffs or more likely earplugs instead of a can then they are very unlikely to drop you all the way down into the safe zone.

Even with a good can I'll use hearing protection if there is time, have lost way to much already and most of its is shooting related.

Suppressors are awesome, however soon people will realise that they are a specific purpose item, you need to match the unit to the type of hunting or shooting you do (Iv tested and popped with realitive ease most Suppressors if not all available in NZ)
As a rule of thumb if you have an AR15 or AR10 stay away from anything that is not stainless steel UNLESS!! And this is important) if you are going to purely hunt with it and sustain a rate of fire similar to your average bolt gun all the lightweight units are just fine.

I currently have a cheap light aluminium can on my M&P 10 as I needed to keep the weight down but often find myself hunting without hearing protection and while it's not the quietest unit I'm still very happy it's on instead of a 308 blasting 14.5 inches from my face.

What about lightweight alloy suppressors on magnum calibres? Are they really going to last with the extra velocity, powder burn and pressure from a magnum?
Steel suppressors will be too heavy to carry round especially on an alpine rig, which is why I just use a muzzle break instead.
Like you say Dr Watson, they have a specific purpose.

D Watson, i think the same but would be pissd carrying your AR in the scrub with its mag and sling up top in the way

Originally Posted by 338 man

D Watson, i think the same but would be pissd carrying your AR in the scrub with its mag and sling up top in the way

Yeah I mostly hunt with a 5 rnd ... Also I pretty much shoot something everyday with this rifle... Is it better to carry than a tikka hacked off with a can ? No probably not... But shooting isn't a novelty activity for me and if I'm going to shoot a rifle everyday.. It's not going to be something lame.

That said its only a little over minimum length, when it's on my back it sits flat upside down... The stock sits below the top of my shoulder and the can doesn't really protrude past my right hip... Not the best, but not too bad

Why are suppressors weights such a major topic. They aren't much in the total weight package are they? Then there is the fact that I'd probably loose the equivalent of five or ten suppressors worth of weight if I dieted for a month

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