Thread: TV3 & Guncity mistake

Originally Posted by Tommy

There's this dude Ted on youtube (kiwi guy), took his C cat Sten out on his boat into international waters for a few mag dumps and put the video on youtube. Got into major shit with his AO, had to say 53 million hail marys to keep his license and endorsements hahaha

Wait, advertising "loopholes" is a bad idea, right?

That is a fucking amazing story hahaha

Originally Posted by Tommy

There's this dude Ted on youtube (kiwi guy), took his C cat Sten out on his boat into international waters for a few mag dumps and put the video on youtube. Got into major shit with his AO, had to say 53 million hail marys to keep his license and endorsements hahaha

Wait, advertising "loopholes" is a bad idea, right?

Not his only faux pas. Also videod himself humping around in the bush with a pistol stuffed inside his waistband.

Originally Posted by Ryan

Not his only faux pas. Also videod himself humping around in the bush with a pistol stuffed inside his waistband.

Missed that one. He did some really dumb shit. Not short of coin though.

Also advertised where he lived, and that he had a ute load or two of pistols, all sorts of select fire longs, the lot.

He has a rather nice collection, but publicising some of his actions is hardly smart even though I very much doubt he is any sort of risk

Is that because the actions are illegal? I've attended a few good shoots in my younger days! That's when the police and army use to turn up armed but in support! Oh it's a change world, but nobody got harmed back then

Originally Posted by Ryan

Not his only faux pas. Also videod himself humping around in the bush with a pistol stuffed inside his waistband.

Yup. That thread got quite contentious Plus he got v shitty with CSI when he wanted to shoot zombie targets on the range.....

https://www.youtube.com/user/kiwitedferny/videos

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Get over yourselves people.

Police have decided not to prosecute, a civil action may or may not happen. Whoopee - NOT

The stunt exposed a weakness in the system, and I for one am pleased that the weakness has been stopped.
FWIW I have purchased since and have had to take the form to a local Firearms Officer who then contacted the seller. Not a big problem.

Get a life folks, go use your firearms for the purposes which you bought them and give your keyboards a rest.

Agree. What most in here I think fail to appreciate is many people are afraid of guns and they vote. So this is turning/turned into a PR disaster for us gun owners which could have been avoided and indeed used positively for us. Really simple, "oops, a hole was found we have fixed this really quickly sorry about that. In fact we'll review the system to make sure there are no others similar holes" the voting public would have been left with the impression that gun owners and shops take safety and security seriously.

Instead Guncity might prosecute, I dont think they will, if they do they'll get their ass handed to them in a court by a Jury and make gun owners look worse in the eyes of the clueless voter.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

So you don't believe people have a right to express their opinions, excepting yourself, of course?

He's giving his opinion here is my one, gun ownership is a minority. So whatever your opinion is just consider the 90%? of voters in our democracy's opinion who dont own a gun and of them probably a significant % who dont want you to own a gun may think come election time. Appearing to be a bunch of uncontrollable nut jobs is one sure way to see us get draconian gun laws like OZ IMHO how ever unfair that is.

Wait.. What.. I don't mean to hijack the thread and forgive me for my lack of naivety and at the risk of asking dumb assed questions. Are you saying that you cannot fire your legally owned (C endorsment?) full-auto firearms, even on a range? ever ever? Also; can you not use your legally owned pistol to hunt in NZ?

Originally Posted by Roddy

Wait.. What.. I don't mean to hijack the thread and forgive me for my lack of naivety and at the risk of asking dumb assed questions. Are you saying that you cannot fire your legally owned (C endorsment?) full-auto firearms, even on a range? ever ever? Also; can you not use your legally owned pistol to hunt in NZ?

Nope

Originally Posted by Moutere

Nope

Not ever or even longer !!

Originally Posted by mikee

Not ever or even longer !!

Are the police carbines capable of full auto?

No, Police Bushmasters are semi auto only. Only NZA has full auto.

Originally Posted by Roddy

Wait.. What.. I don't mean to hijack the thread and forgive me for my lack of naivety and at the risk of asking dumb assed questions. Are you saying that you cannot fire your legally owned (C endorsment?) full-auto firearms, even on a range? ever ever? Also; can you not use your legally owned pistol to hunt in NZ?

You can't shoot it with live ammunition, but can shoot with blanks if demonstrating it to someone to sell to prove it works, and no, you cannot shoot your pistol outside an approved range.

It's all here.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p.../DLM72622.html

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Get over yourselves people.

Police have decided not to prosecute, a civil action may or may not happen. Whoopee - NOT

The stunt exposed a weakness in the system, and I for one am pleased that the weakness has been stopped.
FWIW I have purchased since and have had to take the form to a local Firearms Officer who then contacted the seller. Not a big problem.

Get a life folks, go use your firearms for the purposes which you bought them and give your keyboards a rest.

I have been following this whole drama from day one. No one has explained what the loophole/weakness in the previous mail order system was????

I f you know, please elucidate.

Originally Posted by steven

Agree. What most in here I think fail to appreciate is many people are afraid of guns and they vote. So this is turning/turned into a PR disaster for us gun owners which could have been avoided and indeed used positively for us. Really simple, "oops, a hole was found we have fixed this really quickly sorry about that. In fact we'll review the system to make sure there are no others similar holes" the voting public would have been left with the impression that gun owners and shops take safety and security seriously.

Instead Guncity might prosecute, I dont think they will, if they do they'll get their ass handed to them in a court by a Jury and make gun owners look worse in the eyes of the clueless voter.

You can rest assured that GC WILL be prosecuting( no "might" about it)HER at least. I have suggested several other names to GC. Names of people who were up to their eyeballs in this whole sordid affair. Watch for it to happen!!!!