Yep mine always get toileted just before bed or kennel time. Personally I don’t believe dogs are capable of linking a scolding to an event that happened in the past regardless of whether you take them to the spot or rub said item in their face etc. Needs to be corrected in the moment so they can directly link the two. That’s my opinion based on what I have read and experienced so far - happy to have others disagree with me as i’d rather not engage in training debate - often the demise of dog sections on forums.. lol
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