Thread: Pistol NZ Legal opinion on Safe regulations

Long time back when a friend was getting vetted they asked " how is this bolted to the floor ?"
My friend said " no bolts it weighs a tonne " " oh thats not good enough " was the reply
Friend said " you'e not listening, it weighs a tonne " "try moving it "
He passed when common sense prevailed.

FWIW my pistol safe is a compartment (sep lock) inside my E-cat, I've also got a sep compartment (again, locked) that holds ammo

No probs with my local vetter who passed it about two weeks ago

Same.
My cook couldn't give a rats ass either.
Key pad entry and 2 keys if the batteries die hidden at my folks place.

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Key pad for me. Keys hidden, only place/person that knows where they are, is me and a sealed letter with my will. And nobody else knows the keypad number.

Wife also doesn't care or have any interest in getting into the safe - in fact she has never asked about the code, or where the keys are.

Next time we do our vetting will be when my wife gets her license. She has no interest in my guns or hunting but she has no interest in them being taken from her either if something was to happen to me. Consider if something happened to yourself.(car accident, other fatality, etc) and realise that while the wife is dealing with all the grief and strife that is happening, that on top of that she has the police (or someone else) arrive to take the firearms to where they can be legally stored.

It also has the advantage that if I forget something (bolt ammo or something else in the cabinet) or I lend a rifle to another hunting mate (or for any other reason) I can call an ask her to get them out for me. That completely negates them bothering to ask "if my wife knew where the key was kept" as the answer would be "Damn straight she does. Her one is in there too....

Just saying.....

Originally Posted by timattalon

Next time we do our vetting will be when my wife gets her license. She has no interest in my guns or hunting but she has no interest in them being taken from her either if something was to happen to me. Consider if something happened to yourself.(car accident, other fatality, etc) and realise that while the wife is dealing with all the grief and strife that is happening, that on top of that she has the police (or someone else) arrive to take the firearms to where they can be legally stored.

It also has the advantage that if I forget something (bolt ammo or something else in the cabinet) or I lend a rifle to another hunting mate (or for any other reason) I can call an ask her to get them out for me. That completely negates them bothering to ask "if my wife knew where the key was kept" as the answer would be "Damn straight she does. Her one is in there too....

Just saying.....

Great idea mate. I do have someone in my will to "hold" my firearms until such time my son is properly licenced. All my kit is willed to him.

Originally Posted by R93

Great idea mate. I do have someone in my will to "hold" my firearms until such time my son is properly licenced. All my kit is willed to him.

I have the same deal organised. They go to my brother to he held for my Nephew (and nieces if they are interested) Endorsed ones go to my best mate until wifey decides what to do with them.
Lots of people don't think about what happens god forbid they have an accident

Security checks seem to be a mixed bag. Guy doing mine when I changed address didn't even realise I had a B/E endorsement until he saw inside the safe. No questions about keys

My keys are with me all the time. You'd literally have to fight me for access to my safe.

Most safes can be opened with a pocket knife

Wife has full access to safe, after all she has a firearms licence, and 1/ Because she has a couple of rifles of her own, 2/ If anything should happen to me "they" are not going to come and remove my stuff.

And same as R93 I have a reciprocal agreement with a mate. Should something happen to him I am in his will and his collection comes to me to dispose of on his wife's behalf. I would ensure she gets proper value rather than ripped off by a dealer at a time when she may not be at her best to cope.

Fark, this thread is getting morbid now, but I wonder how many others have thought it thru should something bad happen.

Originally Posted by zimmer

Most safes can be opened with a pocket knife

Wife has full access to safe, after all she has a firearms licence, and 1/ Because she has a couple of rifles of her own, 2/ If anything should happen to me "they" are not going to come and remove my stuff.

And same as R93 I have a reciprocal agreement with a mate. Should something happen to him I am in his will and his collection comes to me to dispose of on his wife's behalf. I would ensure she gets proper value rather than ripped off by a dealer at a time when she may not be at her best to cope.

Fark, this thread is getting morbid now, but I wonder how many others have thought it thru should something bad happen.

Yeah I have the same agreement with a mate who is endorsed - It's not really morbid, just prudent

If we who are talking here provide the impetus for someone to make the same sort of agreement with a mate elsewhere then I call that a damn fine thing

Originally Posted by 308

If we who are talking here provide the impetus for someone to make the same sort of agreement with a mate elsewhere then I call that a damn fine thing

you've got me thinking, alright — thanks, guys.

Originally Posted by zimmer

Most safes can be opened with a pocket knife

Wife has full access to safe, after all she has a firearms licence, and 1/ Because she has a couple of rifles of her own, 2/ If anything should happen to me "they" are not going to come and remove my stuff.

And same as R93 I have a reciprocal agreement with a mate. Should something happen to him I am in his will and his collection comes to me to dispose of on his wife's behalf. I would ensure she gets proper value rather than ripped off by a dealer at a time when she may not be at her best to cope.

Fark, this thread is getting morbid now, but I wonder how many others have thought it thru should something bad happen.

Good one Zimmer. Me too. In my case, it's my brother, and him I trust with my life.

all these guys @Jexla coming out with statements about their security and yet no comment from you except on my post .......is this personal ?

Originally Posted by stumpy

all these guys @Jexla coming out with statements about their security and yet no comment from you except on my post .......is this personal ?

Hey mate, don't know you from a bar of soap, sorry you've taken it so badly. Forget I said anything