Thread: Pump 223

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Not that we will ever see one now.

looks bloody uncomfortable

Greetings All,
I have seen one military style .223 pump, not quite like that. It had been bought to replace a semi auto that had been handed in and now faces the same fate. Mum's the word on the .303 Lee Enfield being the fastest bolt action with a 10 shot detachable mag.
Regards Grandpamac.

Its only thanks to the foresight of the british military in the 1890s that we can still have 10 rounds in a bolt action centrefire.
If the country had been saturated with hundreds of thousands of 5 round mausers after both wars most of which are untraceable today we would have a 5 round limit.
As if you needed another reason to love the Lee Enfield.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Its only thanks to the foresight of the british military in the 1890s that we can still have 10 rounds in a bolt action centrefire.
If the country had been saturated with hundreds of thousands of 5 round mausers after both wars most of which are untraceable today we would have a 5 round limit.
As if you needed another reason to love the Lee Enfield.

Ummmmmmmmmm. Sorry to drop a fly in your ointment pot, but dare I mention what was to be our beloved " Smellie's" replacement? The P14 with a Mauser lock and an internal 5 round magazine.

Phew. That was a close shave. I never thought that I would have cause to thank Kaiser Wilhelm II for saving us from that fate, but "ich danke Ihnen" Fritz.

Interesting to see there is/was a Troy PAR for sale on trade me. Probably trying to offload to some unsuspecting person

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

Ummmmmmmmmm. Sorry to drop a fly in your ointment pot, but dare I mention what was to be our beloved " Smellie's" replacement? The P14 with a Mauser lock and an internal 5 round magazine.

Phew. That was a close shave. I never thought that I would have cause to thank Kaiser Wilhelm II for saving us from that fate, but "ich danke Ihnen" Fritz.
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Yes but it got the arse thanks to the cartridge that was proposed for it its recoil and the fact that Cordite removed rifling quickly thanks to the high speed and high pressure coupled to the poms being reluctant to abandon huge inventories. So it was retooled to 303 and did its best work with the Americans as the P14 and as sniper rifles.

Originally Posted by stug

Interesting to see there is/was a Troy PAR for sale on trade me. Probably trying to offload to some unsuspecting person

The seller is a dealer who knows Cindy will screw him over on cost price only.

Originally Posted by stug

Interesting to see there is/was a Troy PAR for sale on trade me. Probably trying to offload to some unsuspecting person

Think the T/M Police have pulled it.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Yes but it got the arse thanks to the cartridge that was proposed for it its recoil and the fact that Cordite removed rifling quickly thanks to the high speed and high pressure coupled to the poms being reluctant to abandon huge inventories. So it was retooled to 303 and did its best work with the Americans as the P14 and as sniper rifles.

Greetings All,
The .276 Enfield cartridge was a cracker though. Not much chop as a military cartridge but wouldn't have looked out of place in a modern rifle. A 7 mm semi short magnum.
Grandpamac.

There's the Vektor H5, a pump action Galil, made in South Africa... See https://www.forgottenweapons.com/vek...carousel-20185 It tanked in terms of sales,
because it just couldn't compete against semis or bolt actions. A bit of a jack of all trades but master of none.