Thread: Goodbye possums, rats and stoats

One thing i have learnt dealing with pro 1080 supporters, Esp people that admire Forest and Bird is not to waste my time going into in depth arguements with them as no matter what you say, or evidence you show they never going to change their stance but only shoot you down using crap thats been brain washed into them from the DOC spin doctors. The only thing im going to comment on from the admirer of FEd Farmers and F&B concerning my earlier statement is it may well be unproven on here, but its certainly not un proven. Theres plenty of evidence out there, but like i said, you not going to believe anything that goes against your opinion so not wasting my time.
The difference with DOC and F&B etc thou is that its proven that the so called facts and figures they constantly bleat out concerning the 1080 industry is either B/S, Pulled out of thin air or they really have no idea.
They have mis lead, deceived , told lies and hid and suppressed the truth for years to the public and thats the facts.
So whose likely talking Bs and clap trap? Not the people against wipe spread posion drops thats for sure in the most part compared to the spin doctor crap that DOc and others bleat out

Originally Posted by deer243

One thing i have learnt dealing with pro 1080 supporters, Esp people that admire Forest and Bird is not to waste my time going into in depth arguements with them as no matter what you say, or evidence you show they never going to change their stance but only shoot you down using crap thats been brain washed into them from the DOC spin doctors. The only thing im going to comment on from the admirer of FEd Farmers and F&B concerning my earlier statement is it may well be unproven on here, but its certainly not un proven. Theres plenty of evidence out there, but like i said, you not going to believe anything that goes against your opinion so not wasting my time.
The difference with DOC and F&B etc thou is that its proven that the so called facts and figures they constantly bleat out concerning the 1080 industry is either B/S, Pulled out of thin air or they really have no idea.
They have mis lead, deceived , told lies and hid and suppressed the truth for years to the public and thats the facts.
So whose likely talking Bs and clap trap? Not the people against wipe spread posion drops thats for sure in the most part compared to the spin doctor crap that DOc and others bleat out

Oh the irony... Lay of the green stuff cuz...

Originally Posted by deer243

One thing i have learnt dealing with pro 1080 supporters, Esp people that admire Forest and Bird is not to waste my time going into in depth arguements with them as no matter what you say, or evidence you show they never going to change their stance but only shoot you down using crap thats been brain washed into them from the DOC spin doctors. The only thing im going to comment on from the admirer of FEd Farmers and F&B concerning my earlier statement is it may well be unproven on here, but its certainly not un proven. Theres plenty of evidence out there, but like i said, you not going to believe anything that goes against your opinion so not wasting my time.
The difference with DOC and F&B etc thou is that its proven that the so called facts and figures they constantly bleat out concerning the 1080 industry is either B/S, Pulled out of thin air or they really have no idea.
They have mis lead, deceived , told lies and hid and suppressed the truth for years to the public and thats the facts.
So whose likely talking Bs and clap trap? Not the people against wipe spread posion drops thats for sure in the most part compared to the spin doctor crap that DOc and others bleat out

I'm betting you don't go into depth because you don't have the ability to, your arguments don't stand up to simple challenges. If there's plenty of credible evidence out there then why aren't you putting it up?

I think you suffer from a serious case of conformation bias. You really need to stop using the word 'fact' or 'facts' when you can't back it up, just because you believe it's fact doesn't make it so. If you're going to accuse F&B, DOC, the Government etc of corruption, lying, suppressing truth etc then you better be able to back it up because logic isn't ruling in your favour.

You're argument requires a lot of assumptions:
-1080 does more harm than good.
-The Government is corrupt.
-DOC is corrupt
-F&B is corrupt
-All peer reviewed studies re the use of 1080 have been conducted by corrupted scientists and reviewed by more corrupt scientists.
-All of the above people would risk their careers and livelihood to support 1080 when even a bunch of hunters can clearly see it does more harm than good.
-1080 industry is worth billions upon billions of dollars to fund the corruption.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. To say that 1080 works isn't an extraordinary claim, but there is still an extraordinary amount of evidence to back it up.

It's not perfect, far from it, but it's the best we've got.