Try Northern Africa for 'middle of nowhere'. Might bring things into perspective for ya.
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All we need is a picture of a person that looks like a deer. Then we will know what to look out for :D
RIP - Gordon Leech
Opening weekend of the roar.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=12025847
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Very sad
Tragic as I have said previously. Such a waste. So unnecessary and avoidable.
It's an unfortunate fact that some people are more predisposed to filling in the blanks in a shape in a creative way.
Therefore what is a deer to one person is not a deer to another. There's been a heap of research into it. Like seeing shapes in the clouds.
Ever gone spearing flounder at night? Many people spear the sand thinking it's a flounder 10 times before seeing a flounder. They imagine the shape.
The sooner everyone thinks "I could shoot someone when hunting" instead of "I don't get how people mistake s deer for a human" the sooner the hunting fatalities will drop.
In hunter safety I firmly believe that everyone should be told that it is highly likely that you WILL mistake a person for a deer, and that it's hard to distinguish the difference. This will change attitude away from the above.
We should all just remember that when we are pointing the finger there are three more pointing back at us...
I have been hunting around 50 yrs , recreationally and commercially. I bet like many other hunters on this forum also, have seen and adapted to the nowday stalking and hunting. Gone are the days of deer hair covered swanis undies or shorts short enough so you could lift your leg higher than ur hip without castrating oneself, once hairy legs a mat of hookgrass, norsewear socks thick with biddy bidds, lace up gummys with horse shoe plates that sometimes left tell tale marks on dry rocks like a deer hoof print, oh.. and the swarm of blowflys that followed awaiting a kill, or if you stopped long enough a family gathering on your swani. "We" know from experience white in the bush sticks out like a sore thumb, or a sika bum, bright colours rather than flat to high light yourself for human eyes, it could bee that second look of disbelief that saves some ones life. Bright Blaze orange top, and if you have white hair a bright orange hat, made compulsory hunting attire. Might save a few deer as well.
Tragic stuff, one of the reasons I don,t go hunting on Easter. Trouble is from now on you have it in the back of your mind some one may have a scope on you!
I wonder if the guy is one of the Leech family from Paeroa. They run a large quarry there
I wish we could hear the shooters story and circumstance more promptly to take some learnings from it.. What was the guy wearing, what happened etc. But then again they are probably going to say what ever keeps them out of jail anyway.
If the guy was wearing blaze orange I'm going to be selling a brand new blaze orange huntech gillie thats for sure. Are you guys against blaze orange reckoning its worse to wear than a normal camo?
as long as we have people wandering around not iding their targets properly it doesn't matter what you wear after thinking about it a bit it appears to me that complaicency plays a big part in these situations the attitude that ive been doing this all my life so I know what im doing mindset just my opinion tho
I ran into a gimp today poaching one of my spots.
He lurched off rather quickly whimpering and squeaking when he heard a stag roaring. [emoji16]
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Condolences to the family. It sucks and makes me sick to my stomach with the thought of all those affected. Wish there was a way to stop this happening but we've been saying this for 30+ years now so I don't see it changing anytime soon.
There is but it will be at a cost to us in our freedom and with money, a nationwide public land ballot system for the roar.
Maybe to go a little safer one hunter per block so some dumb ass doesn’t shoot his mates?
I’m not keen on this because where will it stop? and it’s the golden month I normally have 3 to 5 weeks off for the roar every year, also I’ve got a better chance of getting shot than most spending that much time in DOC land hunting 90% inside the bush and 10% in the tops.
Is common sense to IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET too much to ask for hunting this time of the year or any time of the year?
That’s my rant over and out.
I hear you Tikka. In logic it sounds simple but it happens almost every year. It's a risk you have to be willing to take as a hunter. Still far safer then driving our roads.
Identify your target yes
BUT DONT FOR GET YOUR FIRING ZONE!
That's how I got a load of shot to the body!
School mate so did not report it at the time. Would be done no quibble today!
Defiantly some idiots out there , me & my mate were camped up across a river a group of 5 turned up fluro orange from head to toe we told them where we where hunting for the couple of days which was fine they said were they wanted to go , sorted.. however latter that day I,d been sitting on my ass out of the raging wind watching a slip for 5 hours waiting for a stag to walk back out I could hear the stag roaring getting closer & closer to the slip his hinds poped out waiting waiting then the deer scarpered 10 minutes latter I could plainly hear someone roaring probably only a 100 meters off the slip...with the wind up his ass wtf ! then the next morning we headed down stream to locate a stag that was roaring in the night only 300 odd meters from camp we get down there next minute one of the oompa loompa,s appears from the other side waving his arms & giving hand gestures like charades the clearest one we got was the rifle action pointed in our direction to say they would be shooting in our direction , some people & these guys had a private hut to stay in & around 5000 hectares of private property to hunt yet the halfwits are creeping around our camp :pissed off:
Year @Boaraxa it's like your out at sea fishing away and next thing dickhead zooms up and around your boat full tilt:wtfsmilie: and you have your dive flag out:O_O:
Some people have no consideration for others it's all me mememememe:yuush: bloody sad really.
ahhhh the joys of hunting public land during roar your sure to see idiots with guns about doing idiotic things
Bloody shocking these guys new exactly were our camp was on one occasion they would have walked passed it to get to were the stag was that I was waiting on , almost have a good mind to ring the station owner as I no they are very safety conscience .
@berg243 your idea is sound untill they do as happened to @Boaraxa I found it's best to have a talk found out what each ones plan is and then stick to what each is saying even if the hunting situation changes and you our out of luck. Not sticking to the plan is just asking for trouble.
You still need to remember that there could well be someone else there as well.
I also would call him, If it appears he likes the other fellow better than you and your hunting in that area is taken away...
So what.
At least you won't get shot.
Quote...A man has been charged with Careless Use of a Firearm Causing Death in relation to a hunting incident last week.
The 37-year-old man was arrested last week after a man died in Kaimai Range
on Monday, April 2.
He will appear in Hamilton District Court tomorrow.
Gordon Douglas Leech, 57, died from a single gunshot wound to the chest during the opening weekend of the "roar".
This will be interesting,...sentencing guidelines for this????
Opening weekend of the roar? No it was Easter. RIP Gordon