Thread: 6.5 Creedmoor? whats everyones thoughts? on hunting performance

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Sounds like you have never owned one.

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sounds like you might just be wearing blinkers...read his comment again...... it applies to ANY cartridge/calibre from .22lr up to .50bmg you should use appropriate projectile at appropriate range for appropriately sized animal inside appropriate range
inside 300 yards MOST will get job done without too much fuss...stretch barrel/range and you better have your shit sorted....

6.5 Creedmoor provides similar ballistics to 6.5x55, which has been used to take frickin' Moose since the late 1800's through to the present day.

If you're in any doubt about the ability of a 6.5mm's ability to kill ungulates, there is over a century's worth of data, anecdotes, opinions and articles which you could have looked for.

zeropak..lots of elk are shot and cleanly killed with the .243w and the .30/30 too
BUT they are in range and shooter knows there shit/shot placement and as mentioned above projectile choice.
zeropak..this OP also has a .270 that apparently is very accurate..on one website..and not so much when opting to sell it on here..make of that what you will.
as I said to OP elsewhere..the 6.5CM will do nothing that his currently VERY accurate .270w wont do already...and/or the crossover between the two is enough to make buying one when already has the other is......weird..even weirder when money being tight is reason to sell the one he already has.
also has a .45/70 for close range/big stuff...... only will be shooting out to 300-350...... so again you need a new 6.5cm why????
but what the hell do I know..Im just a .223 shooting "hero" apparently......

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

zeropak..lots of elk are shot and cleanly killed with the .243w and the .30/30 too
BUT they are in range and shooter knows there shit/shot placement and as mentioned above projectile choice.
zeropak..this OP also has a .270 that apparently is very accurate..on one website..and not so much when opting to sell it on here..make of that what you will.
as I said to OP elsewhere..the 6.5CM will do nothing that his currently VERY accurate .270w wont do already...and/or the crossover between the two is enough to make buying one when already has the other is......weird..even weirder when money being tight is reason to sell the one he already has.
also has a .45/70 for close range/big stuff...... only will be shooting out to 300-350...... so again you need a new 6.5cm why????
but what the hell do I know..Im just a .223 shooting "hero" apparently......

I will add this for the 6.5 crudmore lovers - old Barry would go into the hills with a Holland and Holland 7x57 open sights - mauser action - old craftmanship - subtly engraving maybe even my name on it - hand checkered - and be happy as a little sand boy - and you lot can use ya bloody tikkas in 6.5 crudmore

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

I will add this for the 6.5 crudmore lovers - old Barry would go into the hills with a Holland and Holland 7x57 open sights - mauser action - old craftmanship - subtly engraving maybe even my name on it - hand checkered - and be happy as a little sand boy - and you lot can use ya bloody tikkas in 6.5 crudmore

Jeez mate I take my hat off to you. These days I would struggle to even see the open sights. Next your going to tell me you still have one of those phones hanging on the wall with the little dial thing on the front you poke your finger into for the numbers.

Originally Posted by zeropak

Jeez mate I take my hat off to you. These days I would struggle to even see the open sights. Next your going to tell me you still have one of those phones hanging on the wall with the little dial thing on the front you poke your finger into for the numbers.

no but funny enough after getting talked into sparks new wireless and discovering how fucken unreliably and useless it is give me the old land line every day - open sights well the good ones have leafs that stand up and are graduated into ranges so first leaf 100 then 200-300 -400-500 that and a good blade front sight - precision - small bore and full bore are still iron sights even if the back sight is a target aperture and the front a tunnel - but no scopes and thats out to 1000 yards for full bore - some things stand the test of time

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

I will add this for the 6.5 crudmore lovers - old Barry would go into the hills with a Holland and Holland 7x57 open sights - mauser action - old craftmanship - subtly engraving maybe even my name on it - hand checkered - and be happy as a little sand boy - and you lot can use ya bloody tikkas in 6.5 crudmore

I hope you still ride a horse to get your groceries? Because them new fangled auto-mobiles just won’t catch on…..

ha ha ha If I had somewhere to keep a horse yes I would - rode one every fine day in my young days as a shepherd - love them to this day - dont get me wrong not totally against 6.5 crud more its just that they are not what they were advertised as or sold as - there are better - and plastic firearms no

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

I will add this for the 6.5 crudmore lovers - old Barry would go into the hills with a Holland and Holland 7x57 open sights - mauser action - old craftmanship - subtly engraving maybe even my name on it - hand checkered - and be happy as a little sand boy - and you lot can use ya bloody tikkas in 6.5 crudmore

The rifle i grew up hunting with was a husqvarna 7x57 with a fixed 4 power kahles helia on it. Probably shot more deer with that than i have with 6.5 Creedmoor, 7x57 never let me down but neither has the creedmoor. I dont think the deer cared either way, they all died from an overdose of lead. Call it a crudmore all you want but it kicks a 7x57s ass all day long in every way you look at it.

All a pointless debate at the end of the day because almost any calibre is capable of killing almost any animal when the rifle is in capable hands.

Times change, technology moves on and things get better. People taking the new technology/calibres and not knowing how to use them properly or having the required skill for longer shots is a people problem not the calibres fault.

Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

All a pointless debate at the end of the day because almost any calibre is capable of killing almost any animal when the rifle is in capable hands.

If we want to be more specific in regards to 'good deer cartridges/calibres', then I would start with a bullet weight between 120gr up to about 180gr max, with a diameter of between .25 and .30, with a velocity of between 2700fps and 3200fps.
Also, unless you want a heavy rifle (>4kg all up), you will probably want to limit your bullet weight to about 150gr if shooting unsuppressed due to recoil.
Choose the rifle and cartridge from within this criteria, and then the one that is best will be the one that you get the best accuracy from. Accuracy comes from practice. Practice comes from sending rounds down range.

Then everything works.... just shoot things with the right projectile in the right place.

Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

The rifle i grew up hunting with was a husqvarna 7x57 with a fixed 4 power kahles helia on it. Probably shot more deer with that than i have with 6.5 Creedmoor, 7x57 never let me down but neither has the creedmoor. I dont think the deer cared either way, they all died from an overdose of lead. Call it a crudmore all you want but it kicks a 7x57s ass all day long in every way you look at it.

All a pointless debate at the end of the day because almost any calibre is capable of killing almost any animal when the rifle is in capable hands.

Times change, technology moves on and things get better. People taking the new technology/calibres and not knowing how to use them properly or having the required skill for longer shots is a people problem not the calibres fault.

you are right more deer shot in NZ with the 303 than any other calibre and many with full jacket army ammo - its what they had - and no scopes back in those days - but I bet they had those old girls well zeroed - the 6.5 CRD is perfectly adequate - and does have a few good points for a new shooter like low recoil- because thats the problem with the real long range calibers and new shooters - the recoil can be quite off putting until one learns how to manage it -I tried a friends 338 lapua bloody hell would not like to fire to many thru it -yes technology moves on and we will see advancements for hunters especially I think in thermal gear - scopes well range finding built in will become more compact and ballistic read outs part of the parcel- but long range one cant do much about those variables like wind - still a real skill set to learn -and practise makes perfect - just please dont try long shots unless you are well practised and very confident of a clean kill - my thoughts

260, 6.5Swede, 6.5 creed = all much the same, all much of a much & very capable of taking deer (reds) out 300-400 yards with the right projectiles. Longer range not so much , unless the Hunter/rifle are proven capable of precise shot placement.
Creedmore vs crudemoore ….I guess this is not “haters” of the cartridge per se, but more a reaction to the over-hyped Hornady marketing machine & some of the “fan boys” they seem to attract. The cartridge is good but it doesn’t offer much over the proven existing 6.5s.
The 6.5PRC is much the same, it doesn’t offer anything more than a 6.5x284.
From a commercial perspective Hornady are undoubtedly making a smart play & no doubt raking in good coin. New cartridges, new dies, new pills, etc.
But in most cases the performance “gains” are over-hyped.

Interestingly theres little to nothing in it. I think alot of people that hate on the creedmoor dont actually have any understanding of what it is or what its capable of.

6.5 Creedmoor with 143gr ELDX doing 2800fps has 1791ftlb / 2375fps @ 300yd & 1418ftlb / 2113fps @ 500yd
.270 Winchester with 145gr ELDX doing 2900fps has 1853ftlb / 2399fps @ 300yd & 1412ftlb / 2094fps @ 500yd.

Simply put, .270 has 62ftlb & 24fps on the creedmoor at 300yd & by 500yd, the creedmoor has actually overtaken the .270 in both speed & energy, all while using considerably less powder & less felt recoil.

A dig at .270? absolutely not. Just interesting to see how many people are stuck in their ways with some of the older calibres & refuse to accept that technology moves on and things can in fact be better than what they have used for some time. 6.5 Creedmoor is certainly not the be all and end all, but imo its better than alot give it credit for.

Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

Interestingly theres little to nothing in it. I think alot of people that hate on the creedmoor dont actually have any understanding of what it is or what its capable of.

6.5 Creedmoor with 143gr ELDX doing 2800fps has 1791ftlb / 2375fps @ 300yd & 1418ftlb / 2113fps @ 500yd
.270 Winchester with 145gr ELDX doing 2900fps has 1853ftlb / 2399fps @ 300yd & 1412ftlb / 2094fps @ 500yd.

Simply put, .270 has 62ftlb & 24fps on the creedmoor at 300yd & by 500yd, the creedmoor has actually overtaken the .270 in both speed & energy, all while using considerably less powder & less felt recoil.

A dig at .270? absolutely not. Just interesting to see how many people are stuck in their ways with some of the older calibres & refuse to accept that technology moves on and things can in fact be better than what they have used for some time. 6.5 Creedmoor is certainly not the be all and end all, but imo its better than alot give it credit for.

The issue is that the loading is biased the 270Win has another 10 grains of powder capacity and will push a Nosler 150 LRAB at over 3050 fps with Norma MRP or Re26. Which puts it up against 6.5 PRC or 7mmMag.
Hornady are good at pushing there new cartridges and loading the old ones down. My 2c