Thread: Access to AR s are about to change

They have to use up all those traffic infringement dollars somehow?

Originally Posted by Savage1

Well you all go on about how stupid/pointless the new laws are so don't be surprised if they try and amend them to effect the purpose.

I haven't heard anything but I don't really ask.

The "purpose" is becoming very blurred. Licensed gun owners are buying importing and building guns. Where is the issue that needs addressing?

The purpose is very clear... To reduce the number of military style / assault / black / insert your term here firearms from civilian ownership.

NZ is by no means the only country in the world trying to do this...

This purpose may or may not be to your liking, but I don't think there is any confusion about it.

Has there even been a shooting here involving a e cat firearm?
Its usually a 22,shot gun, or hunting rifle.

Too true ebf. But i think the term "reduce" is a little weak. Try a more stronger word.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Has there even been a shooting here involving a e cat firearm?
Its usually a 22,shot gun, or hunting rifle.

David Grey, was a e cat gun I think.........?


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Originally Posted by BRADS

David Grey, was a e cat gun I think.........?


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Yes and no
E cat came about after the fact.

Originally Posted by BRADS

David Grey, was a e cat gun I think.........?


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Partly but many of his victims were shot with "sporting" .22 rifles which would have been A under the current system. He shouldn't have had any guns regardless of how scary they looked

Originally Posted by ebf

The purpose is very clear... To reduce the number of military style / assault / black / insert your term here firearms from civilian ownership.

NZ is by no means the only country in the world trying to do this...

This purpose may or may not be to your liking, but I don't think there is any confusion about it.

We all know they don't want proliferation of MSSA's, but now they are whining about "sporting rifles" as well. It seems they want A catters limited to the 19th look and ergonomics. Times are changing.

It sort of makes me wonder how long before they start having a cry baby over certain chamberings (.50BMG etc)

Fuckit I'ma apply for more receivers in light of this. Had one turn up on Saturday, but you can't have too many it seems.

Surely the police can't just make new laws because they don't like something, or they have an agenda to get rid of them.
There must be a few lawyers who know the rules who are hunters and shooters who could take them to court if it is illegal.

It seems stupid that the powers at be let people be done for drink driving 10 times, yet can still get their licence back, but people with MSSA guns who have killed probably no one in the past 3years, get punished with reasons that are non existent.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Fuckit I'ma apply for more receivers in light of this. Had one turn up on Saturday, but you can't have too many it seems.

sounds a little like ban panic

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Surely the police can't just make new laws because they don't like something, or they have an agenda to get rid of them.
There must be a few lawyers who know the rules who are hunters and shooters who could take them to court if it is illegal.

It seems stupid that the powers at be let people be done for drink driving 10 times, yet can still get their licence back, but people with MSSA guns who have killed probably no one in the past 3years, get punished with reasons that are non existent.

Yep it makes absolutely no sense. But be careful not to fall into their warped way of looking at the world.

If you have an AR, it is most likely to be a boring old sporting rifle. It isn't an MSSA unless it meets the big mag, flash-hider, lug, stock, grip definition.

Realistically, if anyone is worried, get yourself a spare bolt, some spare gas rings, an ejector, an extractor or two, and maybe a buffer spring and charging handle.

These are the only bits that are likely to break/wear out in an AR, and if you have them set aside, you'll be good for pretty much the working life of your rifle and it won't make a blind bit of difference what the retards in Wellington come up with to mess with imports.