Thread: Optics planet order cancelled

No comparison can be had with the US, but per capita I bet we at least compete with the likes of some countries such as Australia.
And yet the pricing on say Nightforce, between here and there just takes the piss.
I'm all for supporting local businesses and their staff where possible, but it's also quite ok to see your own dollar go as far as possible.
Service however, can be a lot better overseas in my experience.
An example: using the local agent for replacement chronograph parts and waiting 6 months or something silly, got the shits and re-ordered them off the manufacturers website and had them ex the states inside a fortnight.

I used to work for a NZ distributor. We sold Lowrance units. The total weekly order from Bass Pro one basspro shop was more than our order for an entire year for all NZ.
I could buy one from them and ship it for less than our wholesale price BUT if it broke I had to ship it back to the US at my cost.
Given the consumer gurantees act you would be mad to import it yourself unless you were prepared to assume all the risk.
We used to hold a large stock of spares for units we sold too

Went with taihape sports in the end. Might as well support locals that undercut the big boys even if it's more than buying overseas.

Ok so im looking to buy a new vx6hd 2-12x42 in the states. How would I get it out?
Loved ship it to back in the day. Would pay extra to have invoices removed and low figures put on the documentation so i didnt get hit at this end.

Originally Posted by mcche171

Ok so im looking to buy a new vx6hd 2-12x42 in the states. How would I get it out?
Loved ship it to back in the day. Would pay extra to have invoices removed and low figures put on the documentation so i didnt get hit at this end.

It seems that Leupold doesn't allow its products to be readily exported. You could probably ask a store if they will ship with an export permit, but it seems to be a Leupold policy so will probably be a no go. Only way will be to bring one back in your luggage on a flight out of the states.

Only a few select Leupolds are actually ITAR restricted, theres a list on their website.

https://www.leupold.com/wp-content/u.../ITAR_List.pdf

Originally Posted by mcche171

Ok so im looking to buy a new vx6hd 2-12x42 in the states. How would I get it out?
Loved ship it to back in the day. Would pay extra to have invoices removed and low figures put on the documentation so i didnt get hit at this end.

https://theopticzone.com/product-cat...d-riflescopes/

Flik Jon at Opticzone and ask the question re availability of your model for export. Also note his discount. You can run an order (note and apply discount code) most of the way thru on his site until you get the shipping cost and then abort the order. That will give you a value to work on.

Don't expect to find many if any dealers though that will "adjust" the declared values nowadays. Those days are pretty well gone. And even if you can beware - I had a US$600 scope come in years ago and without asking the dealer dropped the value to around 10%. Yipee straight thru, no gestapo tax. Then the penny dropped - if the scope had gone missing all I could have claimed was the value on the dodgy invoice the dealer supplied. It would have been poinless trying to explain my CC value didn't match the invoice value on the insurance claim.

Years ago, in the days of telephone orders Sinclairs halved the value of one of my orders virtually without me asking.

Customs also have a reasonable hold on values.

As far as getting hit at this end it is still a lottery but the odds in recent years have swung much more to getting gst'd and bio'd. In fact not getting done is very much the exception I would say. I never get wound up about it and budget for it. If it comes thru without getting gst good, if it doesn't "oh well".

Price your local alternatives first. Sometimes the saving ex US is not worth it.

try webyshops,com

Originally Posted by mucko

try webyshops,com

They won't export scopes either.

Recently ordered a scope from them that is unobtainable in NZ. They charged my Visa for the scope pus US$56 freight then told me the order was cancelled due to ITAR restrictions. Haven't refunded my Visa after four days and I'm currently NZ$963 out of pocket. My advice is to stay well away from them.

Dude you will get your money back, it takes like a week for int transactions to reverse and show up. I have had it happen on multiple occasions with a number of well known overseas websites. Be patient.

Originally Posted by Towely

Dude you will get your money back, it takes like a week for int transactions to reverse and show up. I have had it happen on multiple occasions with a number of well known overseas websites. Be patient.

Thanks for that info Towely.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

They won't export scopes either.

Recently ordered a scope from them that is unobtainable in NZ. They charged my Visa for the scope pus US$56 freight then told me the order was cancelled due to ITAR restrictions. Haven't refunded my Visa after four days and I'm currently NZ$963 out of pocket. My advice is to stay well away from them.

It took 4 weeks for me to get money back from Hogue Inc, turns out it was the visa company holding, till they were satisfied it wasn't going to be charged

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

They won't export scopes either.

Recently ordered a scope from them that is unobtainable in NZ. They charged my Visa for the scope pus US$56 freight then told me the order was cancelled due to ITAR restrictions. Haven't refunded my Visa after four days and I'm currently NZ$963 out of pocket. My advice is to stay well away from them.

that sucks I had nothing but excellent prompt service from them, I was impressed with the steps to verify my credit card details to make sure I was who I said I was. they are really cagey about credit card fraud left no stone unturned before processing my payment.

Originally Posted by mucko

that sucks I had nothing but excellent prompt service from them, I was impressed with the steps to verify my credit card details to make sure I was who I said I was. they are really cagey about credit card fraud left no stone unturned before processing my payment.

All good Mucko. They refunded the money after a week. Might have been Visa as Glycerine said.

Most U.S. scope retailers are banning scope exports that aren't even on the ITAR list.

Just had an order from optics planet cancelled for rcbs reloading gear. Got an email after the sales went through to say they can't export that manufacturers products.