Thread: Remington in a Spot of Bother

If they made a machined accurate action with a Timney good trigger with their 5r barrels and a better stock and charged the same as a tikka they would do a lot better. There are a lot of custom rifles here in nz being made from 700 actions and having another $700 ish spent on them to make them good and changing barrel, trigger and stock and they shoot great why not do it themselves. That's what the market wants.

No one clones a tikka t3 action because why would you. Too light for heavy long or just long barrels which is what the rage is.
Tikka t3 is very popular because it is the most pushed rifle by the big brand retailers. Not because it is the best rifle. I've seen them doing it in the shops. They thrust a t3 at an unsuspecting young guy and when they are not sure they pull down a browning x bolt and the customer say that's nice.
I will probably get flack from the t3 brigade. Sorry but I can't stand them. Browning all the way.

The only Remington I have ever owned, is a versamax tactical 12g. Still have it and really really rate it. Only mod was to extend the carrier, so it didn't remove the end of thumb while 2 up loading.

The center fire range of rifles - museums are created for a reason.
Plus they just seem ugly and crap.

I have a V3 and in my opinion it is the best semi I've ever owned.

Remington has either been too innovative too fast or too slow to react.
They were the first to come up with the carbon wrapped barrels in the 90's as well as the electronic ignition , but the 260 Remington launch was probably one of their big flops ( with the 6.5 Remington magnum and the 244).
the 260 was launch in only a couple of rifles( 700 bdl and mountain), with only two loads and what killed it was the 1 in 9" factory twist. Just when long range shooting was becoming more and more popular!
Had they produced rifles in 1 in 8" twist and in their varmint/police configuration with a couple of match loads , they would had lead the industry and sold them like hot cakes.
They came with their short magnums when Winchester was already ahead with theirs.
And they are just starting to produce rifles in 6.5 creedmoor when they could have done so 5 or 6 years ago!

Savage and ruger have always been on the forefront to launch guns in the new fashionable calibres .

Quote cowboy6...”I will probably get flack from the t3 brigade. Sorry but I can't stand them. Browning all the way.”

None from me mate,and I have both..The Browning 300,and the Tikka 300,enjoy both.Personal selection is what we are talking here,I certainly don’t begrudge anyone’s choice.Remington shotguns are great,some of their centrefires IMO are shit,so be it.There was a time in Kiwi,where selection was the Pitts,not anymore,so we will have more opinions than a bull can shit,I’m ok with that.

My first rifle,was a 303 out of a rubbish tin,(there were a dozen of them)from the gun Shop at the top of Cuba st in wgtn ,$20,I still have the bassturd,shoots just fine.....looks ugly,but then again,so am I ...and I still get laid!

A330,driver You must have got a pretty one, mine was $17.50, and like you Ive still got it, the lee bolt is a thing of beauty to operate.

MH...lol....agree totally,I picked through all of them,they were all beat up,had know idea WTF I was looking for.Uncle and I stripped the bugger down,sanded,resanded rear and front stocks,a bit of stain,varnish etc,and she looked a bloody beauty to behold.........didn’t take long before I fell over and dropped it in the Tararuas and put a bloody big dent in it........the novices we once were mate

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

A330,driver You must have got a pretty one, mine was $17.50, and like you Ive still got it, the lee bolt is a thing of beauty to operate.

This thread is quite humorous, a bit like Hilux, or Ford vs Holden debate.
Many of comments are correct regarding triggers, terrible safety system(ok in its day) etc but there's no denying Remmington pretty much dominated the boltaction rifle market internationally for decades for a good reason and I guess they just rode that gravy train untill the others caught up. These things never last and other brands rise to the occasion and companies cut costs and quality drops off.
Rifles are very cheap today so we often get what we pay for, pretty sure 20~30 years ago were simular price, in fact might have paid a bit more for my 870 pump 25 years ago.
There are many other reasons to still buy them as often the cheapest way to semi custom to shoot long seated hi bc bullets in a number of calibre that much harder with Tikkas.
A Ruger American or Savage in simular price point shoot just as well out of the box as a Tikka or Browning for much less. The later 2 much nicer finished/machining of course but no difference getting job done.
One thing for sure, many posters haven't actually shot a nice Remmington, admittedly tuned and trigger replaced.

https://www.remington.com/

Ask at your local hunting and thieving.

I've got a couple Remington rifles, and sold on several others, both the .17 fireballs I had m7 & m700 didn't feed well, and would sumtimes double feed, also not great in accuracy, the stainless mountain rifle I bought in late 80,s had to have the machining finished, on the top of the ramp and the ten lb trigger fixed, got a limited run stainless CDL stainless, in 6mm Remington left, really like it.

Remington's problem is the lowered quality, they concentrated on lower end fire arms, and reduced the options and choices, in there high end guns for years, Winchester, Montana, browning, Kimber, Henry, Ruger, have expanded, and continued to make quality, accurate, and well supported rifles, shotguns,
New arrivals into American marked, have increased, and others expanded product lines, ie Sako, Tikka, Howa, CZ, Markel etc
The bean counters at Remington, tarnished remington reputation, and other manufactures have capatialized on it.

I live much of the year in Alberta, Canada, and its obvious, when going into a madjor sports store, that others have gained market share, Winchester M70 are so popular, that they are luckily to have any on hand, henery, Howa, Will both have as many firearms on display as Remington, a lot of guys who started out with a cheap rifles, are looking for a better rifle next time, and skipping Remington,
Personally, I rather a M70 over a m700, and my gun safe now consists of Sako, Kimber CZ, Winchester, and coopers, with one ruger 77 in .358 win
Two Remington M700, a 6mm Remington and an old m700 in 300H&H.

I have several Rem Mod 700 and a Mod 7. The model Seven in 223 needed a new extractor from new but since fix hasn't missed a beat and shots fine. I have a Mod 700 BDL SS in 7 mm Mag I bought in 96 probably never sell it shoots good. Have three 700 SPS models a 22 250, 243, 300 RUM and all are pretty good shooters. Probably get better makes and models but they all do the job.
My Tikka's would be a bit better accuracy wise and nice to carry around but overall the Rem's are good value for the money. Have a 1100 12 gauge which has had a lot of rounds through it and the only problem with it was a broken extractor, which I managed to fix myself.
I had my 300 RUM free floated and the action bedded and pillars put in to stop the plastic stock crushing when it is tighten up and that rifle shoots well best group to date was 13 mm at 100 yards, even with a crappy trigger.

Have 3 Remington rifles no issues with any of them, triggers are fine no feeding or extracting issues, guess I'm just lucky.

Originally Posted by nor-west

Have 3 Remington rifles no issues with any of them, triggers are fine no feeding or extracting issues, guess I'm just lucky.

It isn't nice when they go off.
Safety "on" then to safety "off".

Originally Posted by erniec

It isn't nice when they go off.
Safety "on" then to safety "off".

How light did you set the trigger?

Hadn't played with it as it was when I bought it.
Have got a timney to put on it.
I use half cock position but thought i would try using the safety and it went off on me.
This was in the snow damage in the Kaimanawa's and was looking at how quiet and easy it was to do.
Went off the idea real quick.
Note no one was at risk when i did it.
Thought for a while I must have had finger resting on trigger or something as you do not expect this sort of thing to happen.
There was a doco on 60 minutes? a couple months ago and it was pretty sobering watching that.
You can watch it on YouTube